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dizzyfugu

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Visionary OOB polish?
« on: January 08, 2009, 07:15:20 PM »
Does anyone know what polish or procedure is used on VBP's high gloss OOB equipment - esp. the G-3 Gryphon? Backgriund is that I need th info for future surface refreshments, and also to explain a funny ball reaction I had in training with it yesterday.

I know from the website that it is 1.500 grit base, but what kind of polish is applied? Is it a compound, or a "true" polish like Lanemaster's stuff? From the feel and visual inspection, I'd guess it is the latter, but if someone knows more, I'd be happy about some info

Thanks a lot!
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scotts33

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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 04:05:25 AM »
I think it was Jason or maybe Stephen Hahn that said a close approximation would be using Storm Step #2 to get it to 1500 polished.  The Storm Step products are abrasive compounds.  Maybe they can confirm.
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 03:08:00 PM »
Jason said it was a solid compound in a surfacing machine. My favorites have been 320 w/ Ebo FF polish, 320 w/ Storm step 2, and Resurection w/ snake oil. Those 3 combos seem the most similar for me.
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Nor Cal Bowler

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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 06:07:08 PM »
Rusty,
are you saying 320 grit with polish on top?
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 08:59:41 PM »
Yes, both are abrasive polishes.
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 07:08:34 AM »
Interesting... thanks a lot for your input, guys, it is a great help
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 09:25:08 AM »
i am curious maybe jason or someone on visionary staff can answer i just bought a ogre ss on here it has a nice track on it i want to resurface it but want to know what grit to take it to when i come back up to get the original oob finish that is on the ball?  please help
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2009, 12:24:13 PM »
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Yes, both are abrasive polishes.


Sorry, I missed that...
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2009, 05:37:49 PM »
Is 320 plus those polishes really close to 800-1500 grit polished?  Is there a limit to what the highest grit you should use under these polishes?
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 06:12:27 PM »
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Yes, both are abrasive polishes.


Yeah, but sanding to 320 grit and using Ebonite's Factory Finish polish?
Unless they changed the formula a lot since the early 2000s (2002/3/4), when I used Ebo FF polish, I had to sand the ball no rougher than 800 grit to get a shine when using FF polish. It had little abrasive in it.

If you were using Brunswick's Rough Buff, then, yes, you could get it high enough in the grit range to put a polish on it. As I said, maybe they put a HUGE and ROUGH degree of abrasives in FF polish nowadays. Otherwise, you are not going to get it anywhere close to Visionary's "1500 grit polished" stock surface.
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2009, 06:19:24 PM »
I have a number of Visionary pieces that I have left OOB 1500 polished and I see no ridges and valleys that a 320 grit underneath would leave with a polish over.  Hmmmmm?
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 01:52:19 AM »
My G-3 has also no visible sanding tracks under the polish. From the material available here, I will try a 1.500 grit base and use Brunswick's High Gloss, which is AFAIK also a very fine abrasive polish/light compound, this should do the trick. I used this on other balls before (e. g. Trauma, Reaction Rip, Renegade), and from the info you provided it should come close to the OOB surface.

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rustylegacy

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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2009, 08:52:51 AM »
I dont know about the older power house stuff, I had some that was purple, then a newer bottle that was blue. It took some skin off my finger without me even noticing it, so its definately abrasive. Put it on a spinner with some water and good pressure, it'll get rid of the lines. The resurection w/ snake oil does leave slight lines, but the move is still similar.
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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2009, 08:55:39 AM »
Serious question.  If you are going to use an abrasive polish over say 320 maroon nylon scotch brite and take it up in a finish level to say 1500 then why do the 320 step at all?
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rustylegacy

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Re: Visionary OOB polish?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2009, 09:13:03 AM »
Just to try it. I didnt want to start real high because I dont know what grit the FF actually leaves the ball at.This is what I dont get about the Ebo and Hammer balls that come 4000 plus FF, Im pretty sure if I tried that on my Bronze centaur, it would go straight. Also, the Storm step 2 is a little more runny, but still gets a similar result.
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