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J_Mac

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Visionary's 14# RG & Diff. numbers
« on: December 20, 2008, 06:32:24 AM »
Visionary doesn't seem to make this information public...

Does anyone know how the numbers change in 14# when compared to the RG and diffs they have listed online and in their catalog?

Edited on 12/21/2008 12:11 PM

 

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Re: Visionary's 14# RG & Diff. numbers
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2008, 10:33:52 AM »
Hey Strike,

You are absolutely right with your comments.  The best way to really find out about a ball is to speak with someone who is knowledgeable about that particular ball, or watch it roll first hand.

I also agree with your comment about the "recommended lane conditions".  BUT, we have to be very general with that information because alot of balls can handle everything between med light to med heavy depending on how the bowler drills it and how they finish the surface.  The biggest problem we run into when trying to describe a balls reaction is that my medium could be heavy oil for you, and it could be light oil for someone else.  There are areas across the country where the standard house shot would be considered a flood for people on the east coast or in the south.  

A perfect example of this would be a trip I made to Texas a couple months ago for the TCBA All Star Tournament.  Most of the bowlers there thought the condition was a medium to a little heavier pattern.  A lot of bowlers were having trouble getting their equipment to finish.  I had some equipment with me and tossed a couple games, and compared to the lane conditions around here, they would have been considered really dry.

On the opposite side of this, a couple years back I made a run through California, and bowled a couple games with one of my sales reps out there, and what they thought was normal medium conditions would have been considered pretty wet here in St Louis.

We do our best to take a middle of the road approach, and describe the equipment based on what we think the vast majority of bowlers would consider light, medium, or heavy.  It does not always apply to everyone, but if you compare ball to ball it should give you a reasonable idea.

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Re: Visionary's 14# RG & Diff. numbers
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2008, 09:36:41 PM »
I do believe that the style of bowler is a major factor in determining which oil conditions the ball should be intended for.  That's why the recommended lane conditions kinda has to be generalized.  I consider myself a little short of being a tweener, so would it be safe to assume that a ball for medium to heavy oil would work for me on conditions somewhere near the middle?  That's kinda what I like to do.

My ball speed is typically 15-17MPH off my hand, I'd say, and I estimate around 250-275 RPM.  I always assumed that I was slightly rev dominant because I struggled on dry lanes(which I'm getting better at), but at the same time my best success has come from balls that read the midlane well.  I've beat this subject to death across the boards I think, but I have not had much success with pearls(which have all been drilled 4.5" or longer).  If the heads are starting to go, I haven't had a pearl that got through it clean which could be mostly due to surface or angle to the VAL.  Anyways, pearls have been mediocre for me on oil and super responsive to dry, not so good a combination, which kinda makes me think I'm not as rev dominant as I thought and that I could use stronger pin positions on them.

That seems to be off the subject but I'm just trying to figure out where I should be as far as the conditions I should be using a certain ball on.