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Warlock XV?
« on: January 28, 2013, 10:55:51 AM »
Has anybody had a chance to roll the new Warlock XV? I never got a chance to roll the blue Warlock, but had the orange Warlock! Thanks, Bruce
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2013, 01:26:09 PM »
mine will be drilled tomorrow and with some luck video shot saturday or sunday


Can't wait to see this thing go down a lane..

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2013, 01:27:57 PM »
Should start shipping out on the 18th.




I was told the same.

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2013, 05:29:41 AM »
Ahhhh......got off the phone wth Betsy late Friday afternoon and put an order in for a new Warlock.  Man....looking forward to this.  The last ball I think I had NIB that I actually drilled was.....a Bronze Centaur.  Jason brought a bunch of them down to TCBA Nationals a couple years ago when they were at USA Bowl and I bought one then.  So it's been a little while.

Sad when I remember coming into work....and looking under my desk only to find Visionary boxes containing Violet Gargoyle, Green Gargoyle, Frankie May, Blue Warlock, Purple Ice Executioner, Ogre Urethane and a Charcoal Executioner.  Those days are long gone.   :'( :'( :'(

On edit....I was told a little about the ball and I think this ball might be of interest to you Scott....as it was really put in motion to satisfy a wide range of styles and lane conditions.  Nothing too strong but nothing to sneeze at either.  I look at this ball fitting that missing spot between my Spartan and every pearl I have as I don't have anything reactive anymore and the Purple Ice I have gotten isn't ready yet.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2013, 08:10:44 AM »
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On edit....I was told a little about the ball and I think this ball might be of interest to you Scot

Sorry I have moved on Gary but wish all you VBP folks well with your new purchase.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2013, 07:52:00 AM »
Got my Warlock XV Wed, can't wait to punch it up! Sadly my driller is out of town till next Monday. Hope to shoot a video soon as I can.

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2013, 07:38:06 PM »
For those that have thrown the warlock xv, how does it compare to the mixed breed crossover or mixed breed solid?  I'm looking for a benchmark and heavy oil ball, and I was considering the mixed breed crossover for the benchmark and warlock xv for heavy oil. thoughts?

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2013, 10:56:00 AM »
For those that have thrown the warlock xv, how does it compare to the mixed breed crossover or mixed breed solid?  I'm looking for a benchmark and heavy oil ball, and I was considering the mixed breed crossover for the benchmark and warlock xv for heavy oil. thoughts?

My MBSolid was drilled about the same as my new Warlock 4.5" pin and just in the two games I have thrown it the Warlock is a 4 boards stronger but you can see the versatility of the Warlock has more potential. I have not thrown the MBC so maybe Matt C can respond to that. I really like the Warlock. Going to order another one and drill it higher pin and polish it.

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2013, 09:40:30 AM »
Warlock is about 3 - 4 boards stronger than the MB crossover.  Very Midlane with a very very strong arc.   I also might get another and polish it.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2013, 10:08:48 AM »
Warlock is about 3 - 4 boards stronger than the MB crossover.  Very Midlane with a very very strong arc.   I also might get another and polish it.

Better yet.....how does this ball compare to the Frankie May Gryphon?  Even at 1000 or 2000 abralon (up from the OOB 500 I believe), it was a very heavy rolling piece.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2013, 01:36:56 PM »
Never had a Frankie May, I have a g-3 and the warlock is way way way stronger.

Matter of fact I am taking mine today to hit it with a light 4000 to see if I can get it a tad longer down the lane
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2013, 05:20:54 PM »
Warlock is about 3 - 4 boards stronger than the MB crossover.  Very Midlane with a very very strong arc.   I also might get another and polish it.

Better yet.....how does this ball compare to the Frankie May Gryphon?  Even at 1000 or 2000 abralon (up from the OOB 500 I believe), it was a very heavy rolling piece.

From my memory its been a few years since I threw a FMG, you are right FMG is heavy rolling. In the three games I have thrown the XV, I think the potential versatility is a lot
like the FMG, but I think the XV is stronger by how much I am not sure because of the time in between and no way to compare the XV vs. FMG. I think the XV is more backend. Hope this helps, would be nice to compare the two though, XV has a lot of potential.

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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2013, 06:32:48 PM »
I wonder if Spike will chime in on this as he had the FMG and now the Warlock.

I have an old email that one of the Wonders wrote up info on each line at the time...says this on FMG:

GRYPHON line

Frankie May GRYPHON will make a stronger and sharper move on the back than the AMB or IMMORTALs because it doesn't flare as much or roll as soon. Surface can be easily adjusted to fit most conditions from med/hvy to med/light. This is a very versatile ball.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2013, 10:04:00 PM »
My Frankie May would hook too early in box finish with the stacked drill I put on it. I took it up to around 1500 polished and it was very similar to my G-3, good length and stronger backend. I never found the comfort zone with the FMG and ended up trading it off. Kind of wish I kept it and tried re-drilling it maybe, but that was a while ago. As I've only got 2 sets in with Warlock, it's hard to compare, but I will say with drill I put on it-
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and the ball in box finish, I have an excellent combination of length, roll and hook for my style, tweener down and in shot. I get a consistent reaction through 3 game league set and the Warlock just instills confidence that I never achieved with the FMG. Hope to get a video up soon showing my Warlock in action! I was initially hesitant to pick up another ball (solely due to fact that I have too damn many right now), but I couldn't be happier picking up this gem from the good folks at VBP. Ball is a winner in my book
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2013, 08:18:41 AM »
My Frankie May would hook too early in box finish with the stacked drill I put on it. I took it up to around 1500 polished and it was very similar to my G-3, good length and stronger backend. I never found the comfort zone with the FMG and ended up trading it off. Kind of wish I kept it and tried re-drilling it maybe, but that was a while ago. As I've only got 2 sets in with Warlock, it's hard to compare, but I will say with drill I put on it-
 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/Spike2112/Fall%20arsenal%202012-2013/3-1-2013001.jpg

and the ball in box finish, I have an excellent combination of length, roll and hook for my style, tweener down and in shot. I get a consistent reaction through 3 game league set and the Warlock just instills confidence that I never achieved with the FMG. Hope to get a video up soon showing my Warlock in action! I was initially hesitant to pick up another ball (solely due to fact that I have too damn many right now), but I couldn't be happier picking up this gem from the good folks at VBP. Ball is a winner in my book

For me with my FMG, I took mine up to 4000 and no polish.  I had mine drilled pin at 4.5 inches, cg stacked and a small weight hole down.  The ball was killer for me when the lanes got tight.  I had been looking for something to replace it since I had a ton of games with it and it was starting to die off.  I thought that the Spartan was going to be that ball but the cover for whatever the reason would start tacky right after I cleaned it but once it got a little oil on it, the tackiness completely disappeared and I lost some reaction until I cleaned it again. 

been kind of interesting that the buzz surrounding VBP has been very quiet over the past year or so and now that the new Warlock is coming out, there is a new buzz in the air.  It is good to see.
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Re: Warlock XV?
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2013, 12:11:57 PM »
The buzz has merit.  The Classic, MB Crossover, and the Warlock are all good pieces.

Just missed my 2nd 300 with the warlock last night.  10 pin in the 9th.
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