Hey Everyone,

Since Ballreviews does not have a place to post a review, i thought it would be best to accomplish that here.

I currently have not drilled or thrown my IMMORTAL however, I have drilled two of them for my fellow Visionarians.

IMMORTAL #1 - RH Bowler is Low Rev, PAP= 4 Right 1/8 Up

Layout - 3 3/4 ARC (Pin on Ring, CG PALM, VMB Left of Thumb)

I took this ball and lightly scuffed it with a Grey Scotch Brite as the box finish carried the ball a little too far down the lane for this particular player.  The review of this ball was completed on a similar pattern to the USBC shot, a little shorter but still a much better look on the balls true ability opposed to the everyday HS.

The bowler was playing 12 to 8 and with the slight scuff allowed the ball to the same part of the lane as the BRONZE but with a much more angular move to the pocket.  This ball hit with authority and even better allowed this type of player to even open the lane up more as the shot broke down.  What really amazed me was the 11 rings of flare that were created.  Because of the bowlers style this really improves the bowlers ability to open up the lane with the minimal amount of revs and track location.  

IMMORTAL #2 - LH Bowler with Low Revs, PAP = 4 Left

Layout: 4 1/2 Strong ARC (PIN Above Ring, CG Palm, VMB close to position 3 on drill sheet)

This ball was also scuffed and reviewed on the USBC shot.  The ball allowed the bolwer to play right up 7 and generate the extra backend needed to finish off the pins.  Because of the light scuff, this allowed the ball to read a little quicker, and because of the higher diff. allowed the ball to flare more on the backend delivering yet another devasting entry into the pocket.  Another happy customer as this ball allowed the bowler to move deeper with the shot and still have the return, even on a Sport Pattern back to the pocket.

I will be drilling mine up soon and will return with a follow up review.  My style: RH, med revs, med speed, PAP 4 right 3/8 down.  Look forward to hearing about others reviews.  

A definite perfect combination arsenal:

IMMORTAL
BRONZE
G-3

Best of Luck all.

Edited on 6/6/2006 8:06 PM

Edited on 6/6/2006 8:06 PM

I_BOWL,

Typically, "high tracks" are PAPs in the neighborhood of around 5 inches and longer.  Nothing wrong with posting opinions.  That is what these forums are for.
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Steven Vance
Former Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!

Sweet, thanks for clarifications....i'll adjust my post...

No Easters here.

The axis for the bowlers is correct.  Let's keep this post for what it was meant for.  If you guys would like to discuss your methodologies, please send PM's to one another.

I'm sure there are many other IMMORTAL users that need to post here, so if you all have a review, let's hear it.  

I do appreciate the input gentlemen as I'm fairly new to the ball technician arena.  I have a ton of information, just trying to piece everything together.  Thanks again.

drrev,

I think you misunderstood me.  I did mention axis tilt in my last post in regards to Fagan.  I agree with you about having axis tilt while releasing from the back of the ball.  What I meant to say, is that the ball appears to roll end over end which usually translates to high tracks and longer PAPs.  Lower tracks usually means that the ball appears to spin down the lane.  Alot of people have even said it is like an opticle illusion.  My response was to your question about what PAP was in reference to the first oil ring whether closer to the fingers than the thumb.  I did also post that to get 5 1/2 PAPs you need the first oil ring to literally touch the edge of both the finger and the thumb.  No harm done, my friend.  We actually agreed on alot of we had posted up to this point .
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Steven Vance
Former Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!