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Joe Jr

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Update on Mush are Gold
« on: July 10, 2006, 07:43:51 AM »
Not sure anyone cares but Jeff Mop is giving updates.

Update1:
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If you want to read an ACTUAL report, I'm sitting here at Boca Bowl where Mushtare is actually bowling his first round (no, he didn't prebowl). His first game started off with a strike, then he went Big 4, missed them all (one of the corners was out, so it was 7-), then he flagged the headpin left leaving the 1-3-6 and chopped the headpin clean off. At this point, he had 32 in the third. He did make a nice comeback, though, going triple, then spare strike spare strike the rest of the game for 191.

I didn't see most of the second game, but I did see a runaway brooklyn where he left a 5-pin. He also finished the game X 7/ S8- XXX for 200 on the dot. He is now -9 after 2.

The pattern in this center is a 35 foot pattern. The breakpoint is out near 5, so bowlers are either playing up the gutter or freewheeling it. Mushtare is freewheeling it, but the lanes will start carrying down soon, so he will get some push in the middle, but it might come at the expense of bringing the ball back from the outsides. We'll see what happens.


The kid actually doesn't throw the ball half bad. He definitely throws it better than on that video clip from the news report we all saw. Still, he grabs and hits up on the ball a TON. His accuracy needs lots of work as well, partly because of how much he grabs it at the bottom.

There is a news crew here following him around. Rumor has it it's ESPN, but it could be a local crew. I can't tell.

I will update as the squad goes on

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2006, 06:31:18 PM »
I WAS there...missed Brunswick Lefty(who I love to watch)..

I met the young fella and his nice Mother and Sister.

He is a very unassuming young man and very understated.

I loved the way he throws and still stand all my statements regarding the difference between open shots and sport type shots.

I talked to both the house pro who felt most including Robert were playing the lanes the wrong way inside swing!  He felt they should be playing outside.

My opinion after seeing him in person is even better than over video.
A beautiful open style of play game with a tremendous lag between thumb and finger release(as detailed in the book Bowling Secrets of the Pros by Bill Horvath)..... Good speed and great level loft( I couldn't hear the ball hit the lane at all).  Bigger revs than I expected and a little more axis rotation than I expected...a little softer speed and big carry like I expected.

This young fella throws a rockin strike ball.

Was also impressed with his plastic ball corner pin spares.

There were also many other impressive bowlers there with incredible games...I mostly saw some of the men's games and loved several wow!

Did not think the shot was very tough but I only saw two games!  Not much transition yet. Business called!

My impression is still...no relationship between ability to throw high scores and tough shot performance.

This guy has a BIG game!  I still believe he did every thing he said he did.!

His Mother told me that during a small reception held for him at his home alley's he was asked if he would like to throw another 900?  His ans!wer..."not really!".  I would think this would have to make all of his detractors very happy!  And proud!

The more I spoke with his very pround and enjoyable Mother the more I was impressed with their enjoyment and respect for the game and his genuine desire to continue to learn more about other facets of the game despite the hubbub around him!

I also noted many competitors around him had developed a enjoyment of giving congratulations to him and to receive them from him as he appears to be a very centered and genuinely nice young man who enjoys bowling and his fellow competitors and is a gentleman sportsman.  He will only get better on these sport patterns with more experience.

I enjoyed it thoroughly.

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Luckylefty
PS His Mother and Sister sat in front of me in the bleachers...and at one time the filming focused on his Mother and Sister with me  right above them.  Hope I wasn't doing anything that my Mother wouldn't want to see!  YES!  I do look that GOOD!
PPS watched the outstanding bowler Jeff Pirozshad recording of his comments listed above.  He and I have a different opinion of the possibility of 3 official 900s but I sure respect him and have loved his bowling for years.
Going back for more tomorrow before travelling.

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2006, 07:52:49 PM »
I think the 900s are a bunch of crap as well but he did come back with a 222 I think and another 200 to shoot 1147 or something along those lines so he's not doing terrible esp. considering the 160 & 150 somethings he had.  Still dont see him doing well at all though.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2006, 11:12:00 PM »
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i guess me and my friends are the only people to catch this but ... if mushtare had a 110 in the ninth frame then how could his lowest game possibly be 159?? my friend actually crossed next to him that game and she also noticed that he had 110 in the ninth ... so could be some possible goin on ... oh well i guess if u cant prebowl u gotta cheat
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I noticed that too.
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Edited on 7/17/2006 9:17 AM
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2006, 11:13:42 PM »
i don't know i found this kind of funny. when i click the youth tab on the bowl.com page it brings the information up. but on the bottom left corner theres an advertisement for olympic bowling i think.  on top it says real athletes then in the middle USA and the five rings and then under that it says play fair. possible coincidence or is meant to be there.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2006, 11:15:39 PM »
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i guess me and my friends are the only people to catch this but ... if mushtare had a 110 in the ninth frame then how could his lowest game possibly be 159?? my friend actually crossed next to him that game and she also noticed that he had 110 in the ninth ... so could be some possible  goin on ... oh well i guess if u cant prebowl u gotta cheat
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Maybe he was talking straight pin count at the time, rather than the sheet had a 119 filled in the 9th. If he had 109 in the 8th and a spare or strike in the 9th, he has 119 pins, then just needs some marks in the 10th. There's a number of other ways to come up with 119 total pins after the 9th frame and still get to 159 too.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2006, 01:41:39 PM »
Fireguy...

YOu know what I believe?  I wrote what I believe!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS went again today saw he was ale to amp up speed considerably if wanted.
Game looked really big.  Shot looked like smaller worked better!
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2006, 02:45:10 PM »
We're not talking about big game, or good game...we're talking about PERFECT GAME for 3 three straight games..... THREE TIMES.

No one was questioning whether he was a good bowler, or strong, or whatever other adjective you choose. We're questioning whether he could do something no one has EVER done before.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2006, 03:13:05 PM »
Guys, face it.  LL is in love.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2006, 11:23:51 PM »
Mustard shot games of 164, 200, 162, 188, 197 and 177 for 1,088 today. -166 under so far.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2006, 10:04:10 AM »
I predict after the final six games he's -300....  Probably about as close to a 300 he will get outside of his prebowling arena.  Guess he doesn't have anyone at JOG to edit scores or throw extra messengers in from the pit?!?!  Poor, poor Robby.. I really do feel bad for him... NOT!

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2006, 10:17:19 AM »
Hey LuckyLefty, I love the up to date coverage on Mr. 900.  That is a cool feature to the Ballreviews forum since everyone is so obsessed with this guy (and his sister).
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2006, 10:01:13 PM »
I also saw him tonight. He shot 160 something and 150 something next two games. I've been in bowling over 40 years. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt with one as anyone could get lucky but there is NO WAY this kid ever shot one legitimately. It's an absolute crime that these pros, ball reps and camera people are all over him and all the really good bowlers go unnoticed and unmentioned. How about giving my boy OG "the Beast" some props. After all, he only beat this kid by about 500 pins.

By the way, my son and his friend told me the USA team coaches were behind watching him and walked away after they saw him throw one shot....a 5 count.
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2006, 01:43:05 AM »
whatever he throws the ball ok but so do hundreds of other kids he sucks he didnt make cut and he cheated and oh by the way i got a good clip of him leaving a pocket 7 10 even tho i thought he knew how to carry it before he even left it. no more arguments he sucks hes a house hack hahaha!!
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2006, 12:27:24 AM »
For all of the nasty comments on here...

Here is an article and a quote that sums it up very well.


Not JUST OK!

He throws it great!
Here is a quote from the Team USA Junior Gold Coach Rod Ross!

Among those who had a chance to watch Mushtare during qualifying was Junior Team USA head coach Rod Ross.

"I was very impressed with his physical game," Ross said. "He throws a phenomenal ball and has a nice loose arm swing. He has a lot of raw talent. He can definitely strike and strike a lot, and there's no doubt in my mind that he shot those 900s."

Earlier in the article Robert was quoted as saying he had difficulty finding the line...Anyone who has tried a sport condition for the first time knows that feeling!!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I have a lot more to say on the subject!  But it was said better than I can by a much more respected source than I am...above!  Right on!
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Edited on 7/17/2006 12:37 PM
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2006, 01:02:26 AM »
old LL showing love to him again.

i think LL is Mushtare is disguise.

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