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rocky61201

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Hy Road adjustments
« on: March 08, 2017, 01:12:42 PM »
Long time lerker of this forum and finally decided to join because I really need some advice.  After 25 weeks in my current league my 1st game avg is 211, 2nd game is 223, and 3d game avg is 186.  After the lanes are burnt up I can't make it thru the middle to get to my breakpoint.  Ball is going thru the nose and leaving 4's, 3/6/10, splits, ect...  Even if I try to muscle it and keep it in the pocket I get no carry and weak 10's ect.

My 1st game ball on a fresh THS is a Hy Road pin down under my ring finger about 3 1/2 inches from my PAP, CG kicked out a little to the right.  I LOVE my Hy Road so I bought another one and drilled it pin up about 5 1/2 inches from my PAP, CG kicked out a little to right.

I got more length that I was looking for, but a TON more flair so I'm still going thru the nose.  I confirmed this by practicing after a scratch league got done so I could simulate a burned up house shot.  No adjustments I could make worked consistently with the pin up Hy Road.

Is there anything I can do like adding a flair reducing hole or taking some surface off and polishing the hell out of it?  I really don't feel like buy yet another ball but if I have to I'm looking at a Roto Grip Hustle SAY. 
« Last Edit: March 08, 2017, 01:14:59 PM by rocky61201 »
In the bag:  900 Global Zen, Hy Road Pearl, Astro Physix.

 

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2017, 08:46:50 PM »
what happens when youre up against the ball return with the pin down hyroad. that one should respond slower to friction

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 05:46:29 PM »
For a symmetric ball the drill angle is meaningless since the psa after the ball's drilled will always be near the thumb hole until a balance hole is added.  So I would use a large pin to PAP distance, 5 1/2 - 6", and a small angle to the VAL, 20 - 30* and position the cg location to give 1/2 - 3/4 oz of side weight in case we choose to add a balance hole.  Of course, if the pin ends up near the RF hole (I don't think it will) either move it away or drill it completely out .  --  JohnP

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 05:48:39 PM »
"Interesting. Im not a driller by any means. So if someone brought a symmetric ball in. They have a PAP 5 over 1/2  up and asked for the quickest response to friction, most angular drilling. What layout would you suggest?"

You're asking for two different reactions, a quick response to friction is going to break early, an angular drilling is going to skid a long way and snap when the ball comes off the end of the pattern.  I think you want the skid/snap reaction, so that's how I'm going to answer.

For a symmetric ball the drill angle is meaningless since the psa after the ball's drilled will always be near the thumb hole until a balance hole is added.  So I would use a large pin to PAP distance, 5 1/2 - 6", and a small angle to the VAL, 20 - 30* and position the cg location to give 1/2 - 3/4 oz of side weight in case we choose to add a balance hole.  Of course, if the pin ends up near the RF hole (I don't think it will) either move it away or drill it completely out .  --  JohnP
« Last Edit: March 11, 2017, 05:51:23 PM by JohnP »

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2017, 01:51:16 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKtGp7p3nPg&feature=youtu.be

Here is a video of my usual shot on a fresh THS.  This is me rolling the pin down Hy Road.  On some nights at the end of game 2 or start of game three this line is fried.  My ball will start catching early in the mid lane and breaking too soon. 

My PSO recommended and took the surface up to 4k with no polish to see how it would do on the pin up Hy Road.  I could make it through the mid lane still and the surface change helped take some of the snap out of it but not enough.  I think I'm about done trying to make the pin up Hy Road work for a burned up house shot.  Basically this is the wrong ball for the job.  At least for me it is anyway.

Re-measured everything again and my PaP is 4 3/4 over 1/2 up.  My pin down Hy Road is 4in from the PaP and the pin up Hy Road is 5 1/2.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2017, 03:00:34 AM by rocky61201 »
In the bag:  900 Global Zen, Hy Road Pearl, Astro Physix.

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2017, 12:05:30 PM »
A little more speed would help, but don't give up on the pin up HyRoad without trying a flare reducing balance hole, as I described in an earlier post.  --  JohnP

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Re: Hy Road adjustments
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2017, 11:58:24 PM »
went and practiced again tonight after some leagues got done.  Was able to work the pin up hy road moving 5 boards left finishing with slide foot on the 35.  Started with
my normal shot finishing on the 30 and hitting high, moving a little to the left got me a bunch of weak 10s and 7-10's.  Moved a little more and starting swinging the lane and got 4 and 5 baggers and the occasional ringing 10 or a 4.  It takes a lot of work but easy to do in practice.  Hopefully I can repeat when it counts. 
In the bag:  900 Global Zen, Hy Road Pearl, Astro Physix.