Author Topic: benchmark ball (Read 5047 times)

smer · « **on:** January 16, 2010, 08:43:45 AM »

Really have no experiences with 900 global, so a question for you who do. Would the B.H. pearl work as the first {benchmark} ball out of the bag, or is the Lunatic still the ball you would use for that purpose in the 900 line? I am a med. speed, med. revs kind of guy, who does most of my bowling on a THS, with a few tournaments on tougher conditions thrown in. Want to try a 900G product, so I want to try a ball that I will throw alot. Thanks for reading and any input anybody has.

Hoselrockets · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:06:34 PM »

I would say the new Break Out would be a good benchmark type ball.
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tdub36tjt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:43:41 PM »

The BHP is a great benchmark if you ask me. It allows me to stay a little more right than the original Break (same ball as the Break Out). But yet it is soooo smooth for a pearl that it never seems to over react which is what I love about it as a benchmark. I have the Lunatic as well and it is a very good ball as well, but the BHP also gives you a chance to get in on the bounty as well.

BWDavy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2010, 09:53:58 PM »

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I would say the new Break Out would be a good benchmark type ball.
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Given the success I have had with the Break Solid as a benchmark ball, especially polished, I would concur that the new Break Out, given it is the same ball, would be an ideal benchmark ball. Mine has a modified Rico drilling and gives me an even continuous arc.
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coco3085 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2010, 09:13:03 PM »

I am the same type of thrower, med everything. I really like the break point pearl. Mine is drilled pin under middle finger about 1/3 inch and mb kicked out 45*. super smooth with a ton of backend continuation. first ball out no matter what pattern or house.
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abrown · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2010, 12:29:44 AM »

break point solid works really well from what ive seen and experienced

i_throw_strikes · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:24:13 PM »

gotta agree with abrown have a break point with a pin out cg palm layout and is great on house shots really opens up the lanes and can follow up with a BPP with same layout

Doug Sterner · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2010, 09:13:57 PM »

There is no better benchmark ball on the planet than the Lunatic...the read you can get from this ball tells you loud and clear what you need to do...

It's the only non-Lane 1 ball I have in my bag if that says anything....
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NeverLearn · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2010, 05:42:03 PM »

The Breakout can never be a benchmark ball.

Do you folks have the least idea what a benchmark ball is or is supposed to be, what properties it supposed to posess?

It is not JUST your favorite ball on the lanes you bowl on.

smer · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2010, 03:33:02 PM »

doug, may I ask how you have your Lunatic drilled up?

J_w73 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2010, 04:14:28 PM »

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The Breakout can never be a benchmark ball.

Do you folks have the least idea what a benchmark ball is or is supposed to be, what properties it supposed to posess?

It is not JUST your favorite ball on the lanes you bowl on.

Please elaborate...

I only have one 900 global ball but I think the Creature might qualify.. (if I know what a benchmark ball is).. it might be a little too weak though.. but it really seems to tell me what the lane has to offer.. it will skid on any considerable oil but will also show me the dry areas.. it seems to be a good middle ground ball that tells me if I need a ball that will handle more oil or need to go to a ball for drier conditions.
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Nicanor · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2010, 04:38:52 PM »

When I was about to purchase the Bounty Hunter pearl and asked Eric how to drill the BHP for a benchmark ball, he told me the Breakout would make a better benchmark ball. I didn't like the Break so I went with the BHP. This is not a very good benchmark ball. Its way to weak. I don't know if its the coverstock or the weight block, but after drilling it two different ways, I'd have to say, its not a good benchmark ball.

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NeverLearn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2010, 05:50:00 PM »

quote:
quote:
The Breakout can never be a benchmark ball.

Do you folks have the least idea what a benchmark ball is or is supposed to be, what properties it supposed to posess?

It is not JUST your favorite ball on the lanes you bowl on.

Please elaborate...

I only have one 900 global ball but I think the Creature might qualify.. (if I know what a benchmark ball is).. it might be a little too weak though.. but it really seems to tell me what the lane has to offer.. it will skid on any considerable oil but will also show me the dry areas.. it seems to be a good middle ground ball that tells me if I need a ball that will handle more oil or need to go to a ball for drier conditions.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience

As far as I am concerned and know, a benchmark ball is ALWAYS a very medium ball: usually a solid resin, although some pearls are very even reacting (e.g. Gladiator Pearl, Ogre Pearl), of medium strength and medium flare that is appropriate to handle medium oil. Its mainuse is to see what the oil situation is on totally unknown patterns and lane surface. It tells you immediately if you can use it or you need an earlier or a later reacting ball. It tells where the oil is and how to attack the "situation".

Some people with higher ball speed or lower rev rate may need a slightly stronger (read: earlier reacting) ball. People with a lower ball speed or more revs thanball speed may need a milder ball.

The Creature, in my opinion, is a perfect benchmark for people who are slighty rev dominant. The Gamebreaker is a perfect benchmark for people who are slightly speed dominant.

The BreakOut, as mentioned above, handles/requires far too much oil and has far too strong a breakpoint to ever be considered a benchmark except for those with extreme ball speed compared to their rev rate (maybe 20 mph and 300 rpms). It is a Virtual Gravity type of ball for medium-heavy oil at the leasy for people with average ball speed and average rev rate.

charlest · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2010, 05:52:38 PM »

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When I was about to purchase the Bounty Hunter pearl and asked Eric how to drill the BHP for a benchmark ball, he told me the Breakout would make a better benchmark ball. I didn't like the Break so I went with the BHP. This is not a very good benchmark ball. Its way to weak. I don't know if its the coverstock or the weight block, but after drilling it two different ways, I'd have to say, its not a good benchmark ball.
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May I suggest -
It's not a good benchmark ball for your ball speed.
The Breakpoint or a specific drilling of the BreakOut may be a good benchmark because of your higher than average ballspeed.
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Nicanor · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2010, 06:44:46 PM »

Thanks Jeff. I just kinda think the cover and weightblock of the BHP is not strong enough to be a benchmark ball for the majority.

Thanks again,

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