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LaneHammer20

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Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« on: September 16, 2009, 02:14:40 PM »
Well I have had the bounty hunter since July, first day I used it practicing on fresh shark, I had an awesome recovering reaction and great carry, big hooking ball that I was hoping for.

Although I know this is meant for heavy oil, I am still trying to put my efforts in the 50,000. I know it is not meant for medium conditions. I put a conservative 5 x 4.5 drill on it with the pin a good ways up as seen in pics.

Bowling on the house shots I come across which is nothin less than true mediums the ball in OOB burned up from what I could tell, looked like it is going to hook but be real mellow in the back leaving washouts. So took it home went to 2000 abralon then appied nice coat of Snake Oil, tried it again at same places, same result, iffy carry, can't really swing it much. So after fighting it for a couple weeks, nowe am at 3000 Valentino pad, then HEAVY coat of Beans sauce, and it is mirro like now. I thought to myself, this should be the ticket. Threw it tonight on the shot that would most likely allow the beast to strut its stuff (40ft nice dose of oil, prolly med-heavy) clean backends), since my S-75 and Requiem in OOB finshes could be thrown and had a heck of a time keeping them right side of headpin, with great carry when in pocket.

It is still doing the same thing, even with the heavy polish and high surface, just roills and rolls, and nothing on the back, washouts if not careful, I had to play like 18- 10 for good reaction. I have decent hand and enough speed that I should see something out of it. All I hear from other people is how much backend it has and such, I know not all of them are on heavy heavy oil

Right now I don't know what to do, I am thinking it might need a balance hole since I haven't weighed it out yet, or maybe a redrill with something like 6 x 5. I have yet to come acroos this with a ball yet. Is the thing really that strong, either that or my style is a horribly not matching up to it.

Any ideas?

Pic is of OOB state


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tdub36tjt

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »
I would email Eric about it he may have some ideas. I'm sure he has worked with the bh quite a bit while they were testing it. also I don't think 5 x 4.5 is that strong of a drill. not weak either, but if the requiem isn't rolling out the bh shouldn't. the other thing is you might want to check for a mismarked mb. also have you tried changing hand position?

Hoselrockets

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 08:27:16 PM »
5 x 4.5 in that ball with some hand is over kill for a house shot.  Not to mention we don't even know what surface he's bowling on?  That drill with that ball would only be for a guy that is revved challenged or throws is 20 plus mph.
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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2009, 08:28:23 PM »
mines drilled pin up, 4.5 x 4.5, and its a beast.  on a THS, im usually around 4/5 arrow, but lately i've had a better look playing 12 at the arrows and 5 at the breakpoint...of course you have to take hand out of the ball though

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2009, 09:18:44 PM »
Just by looking at the pic I would say it probably needs a weight hole.

The cg looks to be about an inch and a half right of your grip line and if it has any kind of top weight at all it should need a weight hole.

Which depending on the location can make a big difference in how the ball rolls.
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 10:39:01 PM »
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I would like to ask if you use a driver on a 150 yard par 3? By your question about the BH I would say yes you do. Not trying to be a smrtass but the ball is not matching up to your league shot. With any of the Break balls I have all my league balls are at least 5.5 pin from axis, I even have a 6.5.
 


We can go to the golf course and find out .

It is just trying something for the 3rd time, It obviously wasn't meant to be.

On a better note. Went to league tonight in the house which at as of late has been a medium condition. But there is many weeks in the year they tend to put down a very slick shot, which is perfect time to test out aggressive equipment. First ball tonight in practice wqith my Black pearl Reacitve throwing 20 to 9 right into the 3-6 pin. Right then I knew there was alot of opil because that is a very strong pearl reactive. Had my Break solid with me as well it is 1000-polished, stronger drill than BPR and it also skated to far, leaving washout. Wetn back to the shop and sanded the ball before league with 1200 sandpaper. Better reaction, but still a little speed sensitive and had to play directly up the boards the first game pointing a little to the pocket. It stayed oily all 3 games. The Break solid is no slouch either!

If this shot is the same next week, I bowl there thwice a week, I will have ample amount of oil to test this ball out. I got home tonight and took some Valentino resurrection to it. So it has a nice sheen surface and it ready for the test if conditions permit. If it is the same conditon as tonight and it still has a crappy reaction I am going to have to have some things checked. This condition tonight was def long heavy oil.


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Hoselrockets

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2009, 10:44:53 PM »
Sweet I'm always up for a little golf.

What is the surface your bowling on?
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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 12:54:32 AM »
If you said the ball was great on Shark and your having problems on your "medium" shot i think you answered your own question.  Your just not seeing the head oil to keep the ball from reading the mids to  early, and ive seen the ball polished, waxed, etc and still ready the mids.

I have a 4 x 8 1/2 layout on mine, pin and PSA both left of the thumb and fingers.  on medium league conditions, it sill reads the mids too early.  The cover is just that strong!!!

LaneHammer20

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2009, 08:05:33 AM »
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Sweet I'm always up for a little golf.

What is the surface your bowling on?


Ya I am always down for some golf as well.

Mondays- Don't know what brand, but is synthetic. AMF I think

Tuesdays & Thursdays are mid 90's Brunswick synthetics., They play slick especially with a good amount of oil like last night, and our league always follows the womens the night before. They oil our lanes over what was left from the night before, so as you would think, there can be quite a bit of oil at times.. Wish I would have had the BH.

Wednesday Is a newer AMF synthetic surface, it is the most consistent shot all year round. The bakcends are normally super clean.
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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2009, 11:28:03 AM »
We design balls for specific conditions, minor tweaks to fine tune a ball is suggested, totally altering the surface or extreme drillings to make a camel look like a horse is usually a recipe for disaster. My suggestion is to go back to basics and use it for what it is meant.

LaneHammer20

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2009, 02:51:49 PM »
That is my intended plan as of now. Atleast I didn't go crazy on a drilling. But there is no doubt I went extreme on surface alteration. You could have plucked nose hairs out with as shiny as it was.

It is at 800 sheen for now on.

i am definitly going to update my findings next week.
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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2009, 06:54:38 PM »
like others have stated i too have had trouble with this piece,after reading all the posts i adjusted to cover to what i call old school,broke it down to 1000 ab,then hit it with finesse it,instead of polish, this gave ball a nice luster, and it did the trick and really woke it up,the finesse it allows to hook in oil , but gave it enough shine to delay the break point and open up the back ends,others should try this it really works,
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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2009, 08:30:23 PM »
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... You could have plucked nose hairs out with as shiny as it was. ...
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2009, 10:27:51 PM »
I wanna update since I bowled on some signiticant oil tonigh. Black pearl reactive was going strait on my normal line, Heist with a 1000 sandpaper finish would not make pocket unless I played right up 12 board with consistent hand and a little slower speed.

Pulled out my BH, thinking this is a great olpportunity to see what it can do. Threw it on my normal line 20 to 12, rolled like crap and came in light, for a washout split, came off my hand good to. Moved over to the right a little more direct, came up light again for a washout split. threw another on the same line right up 12 came came in light again. Was really disappointed and put it up and pulled out Heist and played the line I stated above. Had a great line that game.

I am completely confused with this ball, I was on a solid amount of oil tonight, and it would not perform. It just rolls like crap, I wish I had a video of how it rolls. It just sorta rolls and rolls and rolls.

I am putting a balance hole in it after I get its weights checked and if that doesn't work, I might have to let it go.

Whats weird is the other night after a surface change to Resurrection high sheen, I went bowling with my girlfriend on a a normal medium maybe slightly more, squeaky clean backend house shot that was bowled on by a mens league before we got there, so it wasn't fresh, 3 hours old. That night it was super strong the way it should be, had a difficult time keeping it from going brooklyn and my carry was really good.


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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009, 12:47:24 AM »
lane, i responded before about having the same problem with a similar drilling on this ball. I took the cover back to original 4k abralon, readjusted my mechanics and line and played 12-8 on an oily shot.(usually play 17-8). Ball worked as long as their was head oil. shot 200,236,254,280 in a four game stretch. It is not what i was looking for out of this ball, but i found a place i can play, score, and cash. fyi: my mb is only 5.5 inches, so make sure u check yours.

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Re: Bounty Hunter has me scratching my head!!
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2009, 10:47:20 PM »
Well after using a ton of balls from 900 and after talking with Eric, I ended up drilling mine with a 5.5 pin (in middle finger) with no hole.  The ball is able to retain some energy and hit like a truck.  I do have a good amount of tilt, I can see if the ball get drilled to strong that it could burn up and hit a little soft.
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