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Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« on: August 06, 2015, 12:35:47 PM »
Went to my ball rack in my climate controlled room this a.m. to retrieve my Black Eagle & Black Eagle Pearl for a little practice.  Both were completely cracked around the ball.  This is the third Black Eagle that has cracked this way for me and the first Eagle Pearl for a total of FOUR!.  I bought the first Black Eagle three years ago while visiting in San Antonio. Liked the ball so much I bought two more when I got home and then the Pearl just before it was discontinued.
Needless to say I am so done with 900 Global balls. Four balls in three years is to much and to expensive for my wallet.  I don't care if Storm has bought an interest in 900G or completely owns them.  It won't convince me to ever buy 900G/AMF again. NOTE: I busted the Black Eagle apart..... the thickness of the coverstock varied from 1/4" to 1/2".  Great quality control!  Sorry for the rant, but two balls on the same day was a little to much.  I'm going to go lay down now and hope this was all a dream.

 

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2015, 08:57:43 PM »
I am really enjoying this post.But,I have a question.WHEN MY NUTS CRACKED I caught hell for days.Only because I asked if it could be replaced.I would love to have a Black Ops and Breakdown.But after that bashing I took Think I,ll pass too.By the way where is Thomas he always seems to have an explanation.Or did he get canned after the merger.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2015, 09:54:55 PM »
MY UpRoar just cracked and the very next day my Tag too :( I loved those 2

Yeap only 3 4 games my tag cracked on the lane. Threw that garbage away.

Hearing people balls crack sitting at home makes me scared. I never had a ball crack before except the motiv tag. Hearing 900 global balls cracking left n right from these comments making me not want to pull the button on a 900 global black ops now.

Did you get ur Tag right away when it came out? because I got mine just a couple of days after it was released, maybe the batch?

On the other hand, so many 900 global balls cracked, rethinking on getting the boo-yah! i dont care how it rolls, should be good enough for spare lol
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Ken De Beasto

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2015, 10:18:43 PM »
MY UpRoar just cracked and the very next day my Tag too :( I loved those 2

Yeap only 3 4 games my tag cracked on the lane. Threw that garbage away.

Hearing people balls crack sitting at home makes me scared. I never had a ball crack before except the motiv tag. Hearing 900 global balls cracking left n right from these comments making me not want to pull the button on a 900 global black ops now.

Did you get ur Tag right away when it came out? because I got mine just a couple of days after it was released, maybe the batch?

On the other hand, so many 900 global balls cracked, rethinking on getting the boo-yah! i dont care how it rolls, should be good enough for spare lol
1. urethane 2. hell of a good name!
Yea got it the couple days after it came out.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2015, 11:31:43 PM »
^^^^^^
Did you contact 900 to get it replaced?
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2015, 12:09:43 AM »
^^^^^^
Did you contact 900 to get it replaced?
No mine was a motiv tag.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 11:58:22 AM »
I use every brand of bowling ball and go through a lot of equipment.  I don't recall ever having a ball from 900 Global crack, but apparently I am fortunate.  I live in Virginia, and I leave my current (active) stuff in the car all the time, except for the coldest of winter.  I recently had a Storm IQ Tour Solid crack on me.  Got back from Nationals, and went to bowl.  Opened my bag and at it was cracked all the way around.  Could have happened on the airplane, I am not sure of that.  Before that was a Radical REAX, that was plugged, and it appears to me that the plug was the root cause.  I am currently using the Chemical X with very good success, and would hate to have it crack on me.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2015, 12:27:00 PM »
I have had many global/amf balls with no casualties. Incinerate, incinerate pearl , mamba hybrid, darkness, OMG pearl, protocol, network, respect, moxie, the look and dirty look, sure thing. I live in Chicago so we have extreme weather, hot summers and cold winters. I have all my stuff in the basement on my ball rack. All I do is rotate all my stuff a  quarter turn every month and have never had a problem. I also don't use grips or slugs so not sure if that also helps.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 01:57:42 PM »
Every bowling ball company I have ever thrown has had a ball crack on me. Unfortunately it does happen. But when looking at bowling balls that crack, it is only about 2-5% of all balls made. The problem is the 2-5% are the most vocal. Bowling balls never ever fully cure. So leaving them in even a climate controlled room, can eventually cause a ball to crack. Think of a bowling ball as concrete. Why does concrete crack? It is because it is never fully cured and is constantly expanding and contracting. As long as customer service is good, I will keep drilling those company's balls. Also think about cars. Every time you see a certain one broken down on the road, do you automatically not buy that company's car?
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 02:05:26 PM »
The OP had 3 balls crack on him.  I'm thinking if you bought 3 cars from a certain manufacturer and they well all lemons, you wouldn't buy from that car company again, regardless of the warranty or customer service.

Too bad there isn't a lemon law for bowling balls, where companies had to list the number of defective products, per products produced.  Then we could really tell if certain manufacturers have legitimate problems with their product.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2015, 02:39:36 PM »
Here is a post of mine from 2010.
{For starters, all of my balls are kept in the house.  I have a rack that holds 30 balls.  That said, a couple of weeks ago I noticed that 4 of my balls cracked.  BPP, S75, BP, and Seismic Aftermath.  This is my 2nd BPP to crack and I also had the original bounty to crack.  I have just about every manufactures ball on the rack and none of the others cracked. The part that hurts is that all of these balls had less than 15 games on them.  I talked to Dale and sent pictures. He said to tell my pro shop to bevel the edges of the finger holes like they were not going to install grips this relieves the pressure in the area around the hole and greatly reduces bridge and fissure cracking. My pro shop guy was kind of insulted because he said he had quite a few Global balls crack also. Something is wrong here, I purchase multiple balls a year and this is the only company that I have cracking problems with.  Dale sent me 1 new ball but I am still out of $600.00.  If anyone else has this problem please chime in.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2015, 03:17:09 PM »
I could post pictures of all of my non cracked 900 global balls. There are numerous reasons for cracked bowling ball. Sitting for too long, holes not properly beveled, drilling too close to the pin, grips, or glue. I do apologize for the problems you have had. Hopefully one day you will want to drill another 900 global ball. If I can be of any assistance, please let me know.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2015, 04:10:03 PM »
Curt,
As a 900G staff member I would be expect you to defend your company, That's why your a staffer and that's fine.  You mention numerous things that can cause cracking which I have knowledge of and agree are possible causes.  However, the majority (95%+) of my balls (900G/AMF, Storm/Roto Grip, Motiv, Radical, Brunswick, Ebonite, Track, and Columbia) regardless of manufacturer are drilled by the same person, who bevels the holes, glues the grip the same way each time, etc.  And the only balls that have cracked all the way around have been the 900G sitting on the same rack in the same climate controlled room. (To be completely honest, my wife's old Scout did crack, but it was left in our hot garage).
You did not comment on the varied thickness of the Black Eagle cover stock of 1/4" to 1/2" that I discovered when I busted the Eagle apart.  I busted my wife's Scout apart today and the cover stock is uniform in thickness around the complete ball.
The Black Eagle's are 2012 balls and I have read many forum posts back and since, that addressed the quality from the San Antonio plant.
All I know is I lost three Black Eagles and one Black Eagle Pearl which was a 2013 ball to "full" cracking and none of the others from all the manufactures mentioned have cracked.  I'm not looking for a replacement or a pro-rated discount, as the balls are completely out of warranty.  I just wanted to express my experience to my fellow bowlers on this forum and let them decide for themselves regarding use of 900G/AMF equipment.
At $200+ a ball, I cannot take any more chances with 900G/AMF, with the hope I will not experience the same result again. I'll have to take my chances elsewhere.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2015, 04:36:09 PM »
+1 for Bowlaholic's post... With the current price of balls, I really appreciate that he's warning the rest of us. We'll all make our decisions based on feedback re: quality... That is as it should be and is standard practice in today's world. I'd much rather have what I feel is honest feedback from a non-staffer rather than buy a ball with low QA, have it crack, and then have someone pop up with "oh yeah, I knew that... me too". We all live or die on our reputations. Quality is an important consideration in products at this price point.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2015, 05:02:18 PM »
Thank you Lefty50 for you comments.
Please understand I'm not on here to bash 900G/AMF as some have stated they have had good experience with their product.  Perhaps I'm an unlucky person, but based on the majority of the posted comments it appears others have had similar results.
Hopefully, the new balls from 900G/AMF are better quality than past years and are a good buy.  Going forward I sincerely hope so.

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2015, 05:40:27 PM »
I actually had a thread about this a long time ago. I bought into what Eric told me about how they have tested equipment with thicker shells vs thinner shells and there wasn't an issue. Even though I've had luck with their customer service I would say having drilled the first ones then getting replacements if the cracked cost me drilling twice for each one. I finally gave up on their product. TJ was very helpful as well when I've had issues with cracking. It's always the same song and dance when people start up about taking care of their equipment. I was going to the same driller for over twenty years and he's drilled up 100's of my equipment and the only ones that have cracked have been 900 Global / AMF. All were taken care of and in a controlled environment along with rotating them out to use as well as moving them 1/4 around on the ball racks I have at home.  I will take the blame for going back and buying their equipment and paying multiple times to drill after replacement. But I had enough. Everyone has a right to their own views and opinions which makes this country great and evil at the same time. I do agree that people should be aware of issues with equipment.  It just seems that the people who decide to let other know on a bowling website always get flamed by others.  It's the nature of the beast.