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Bowlaholic

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Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« on: August 06, 2015, 12:35:47 PM »
Went to my ball rack in my climate controlled room this a.m. to retrieve my Black Eagle & Black Eagle Pearl for a little practice.  Both were completely cracked around the ball.  This is the third Black Eagle that has cracked this way for me and the first Eagle Pearl for a total of FOUR!.  I bought the first Black Eagle three years ago while visiting in San Antonio. Liked the ball so much I bought two more when I got home and then the Pearl just before it was discontinued.
Needless to say I am so done with 900 Global balls. Four balls in three years is to much and to expensive for my wallet.  I don't care if Storm has bought an interest in 900G or completely owns them.  It won't convince me to ever buy 900G/AMF again. NOTE: I busted the Black Eagle apart..... the thickness of the coverstock varied from 1/4" to 1/2".  Great quality control!  Sorry for the rant, but two balls on the same day was a little to much.  I'm going to go lay down now and hope this was all a dream.
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Track_Fanatic

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 12:59:56 PM »
I've gone through multiple 900 Global and AMF equipment that have cracked. More than I want to say. That's why even though there customer service is great, I will never throw there stuff again.
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MI 2 AZ

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 01:33:30 PM »
From the subject title, I thought this was going to be a nudist camp joke.

Sorry to see it is nothing funny.  Losing balls due to cracking can be a painful experience especially if it was a favorite.  I've had several crack on me, some in the bowling center locker (climate controlled), some sitting around at home and one in the bag.  Haven't had one crack in several years since I started storing balls in the plastic bags.   

Did you try contacting 900 Global and see if they will provide some type of warranty?  The last ball I had that cracked, I contacted the manufacturer and because the ball was over five years old, they offered me a replacement for 50%. 

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 01:51:08 PM »
Most cases its from bowler neglect but it reads to not be the case.

 My last amf ball was a Hawk.  Had 6 games at most and the same thing happened.  Climate controlled room,  sitting on the floor, huge crack all the way around. Ball was maybe 4 months old. Bought on closeout
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 02:12:59 PM »
I have not noticed 900 Global stuff being any more prone to cracking than other brands.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 04:00:49 PM »
I've owned 3 balls from Global and all three have cracked.  Their new line up gets good reviews, but I just can't bring myself to purchase another.  The first was replaced (~30 games), but they wouldn't replace the replacement (~15 games) since it was no longer available but did offer me a discount on something still available.  I chose not to take them up on the offer.  If I drilled my own stuff I probably would have, but didn't feel like risking another $60 for drilling.  When the third cracked (just out of warranty, didn't contact them for the above reason) I just gave on them personally.  Their customer service seems solid and plenty of other people haven't had problems, but just can't justify trying them again anytime soon.

Kidlost - what "bowler neglect" would lead to cracking?  I've heard of too much glue on the inserts, dull bits or drilling too fast/hot, but am not aware of bowler neglect causing cracking.  Balls that are never cleaned or de-oiled might lose a lot of performance, but I've never heard of neglect causing cracking.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 04:41:26 PM »
All of the stuff I've had from 900 Global and AMF have cracked except my Break Out (awesome ball) and a pink/black hook. The other 10 or so I was not lucky with. Even the replacements. They have great customer service.  Their's are the only ones that I've had crack on me. For what it's worth.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2015, 04:48:40 PM »
I've only had 2 crack out of many, and it was totally for good reasons. I don't use grips, and haven't had a problem.
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kidlost2000

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 04:51:12 PM »
Quote from: Strider on August 06, 2015, 04:00:49 PM
I've owned 3 balls from Global and all three have cracked.  Their new line up gets good reviews, but I just can't bring myself to purchase another.  The first was replaced (~30 games), but they wouldn't replace the replacement (~15 games) since it was no longer available but did offer me a discount on something still available.  I chose not to take them up on the offer.  If I drilled my own stuff I probably would have, but didn't feel like risking another $60 for drilling.  When the third cracked (just out of warranty, didn't contact them for the above reason) I just gave on them personally.  Their customer service seems solid and plenty of other people haven't had problems, but just can't justify trying them again anytime soon.

Kidlost - what "bowler neglect" would lead to cracking?  I've heard of too much glue on the inserts, dull bits or drilling too fast/hot, but am not aware of bowler neglect causing cracking.  Balls that are never cleaned or de-oiled might lose a lot of performance, but I've never heard of neglect causing cracking.

People typically leave them in extreme conditions that tend to cause expanding and contrasting.

Insert glue is a good possibility along with not beveling holes. Typically it's weather.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 05:12:13 PM »
My stuff stays in the pro shop, and I lost 2 global balls to cracking earlier this year. I had a nib black eagle that I drilled, but 6 games on it. Cracked from the ring finger to the balance hole. The other was a Respect. The bridge cracked to the pin. All of my Storm and Motiv stuff has been fine.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2015, 05:31:21 PM »
I haven't purchased any of the newer (couple years) 900Global balls, but of the 8 that I did, all of them cracked except for 2 Hooks (blue/blue and orange/blue).  All of the heavier balls cracked clear around the ball, fingers to thumb.  That's about a $1000 worth of equipment being thrown in the trash.  BUT, I don't have a controlled climate environment either.  All my balls are kept a cabinet in my enclosed garage that can get pretty hot due to tropical climates.  I also had a couple of Roto balls crack as well. 
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2015, 06:09:18 PM »
MY UpRoar just cracked and the very next day my Tag too :( I loved those 2
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Ken De Beasto

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2015, 06:16:14 PM »
Quote from: Azaelv on August 06, 2015, 06:09:18 PM
MY UpRoar just cracked and the very next day my Tag too :( I loved those 2

Yeap only 3 4 games my tag cracked on the lane. Threw that garbage away.

Hearing people balls crack sitting at home makes me scared. I never had a ball crack before except the motiv tag. Hearing 900 global balls cracking left n right from these comments making me not want to pull the button on a 900 global black ops now.
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Bowlaholic

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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2015, 06:48:20 PM »
Funny you should mention pulling the trigger on the Black Ops.  I was going to do the same thing because it is basically a newer version of the Black Eagle.  After today I do not want anything to do with 900G/AMF.  I cannot afford to keep throwing good money down the drain.
I also was surprised to hear someone mention a Motiv ball (Tag) cracking.  This is the first time I have heard this.  I have two Sigma Tours, Sigma Sting, Venom Strike, Venom Toxin, Raptor Talon sitting in the same climate controlled room and they are all good to go.
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Re: Crack, Crack, Crack, & Another Crack
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2015, 08:43:15 PM »
After these post, I'll hold off on owning my first 900.
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