Author Topic: For all of those whom think the Black Widow is a good ball... (Read 20645 times)

strikezone_sanantonio · « **on:** July 12, 2007, 10:41:03 AM »

THE BREAK by 900 Global will be out this month. Did the test about 3 weeks ago with Eric and punched the certified one today and WOW! The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price - just thought I'd get this out before Bowler's Journal or BTM did.
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Stan · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2007, 10:58:59 AM »

Hey newguy. We met numerous times at various trade shows. When are the rest of us pro shop guys going to get a look at your new equipment ??

sammy the sage · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2007, 01:30:43 PM »

Well...the BW made more pba shows...and used on different pattern length's than ANY 2 balls by any other comapny last year on the nat'l tour...

we'll see if this ball even make's (1) show...which I for one...highly doubt!

sammy the sage · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2007, 01:35:53 PM »

oh..and PS...that BW ball...was used even more extensively in the qualifing rounds...from the 1st tourney of the year to the last!

and in case you doubt my words...the PBA man in charge of production's w/ESPN lives in my county...he used to drill on the truck...Mr. Jeff E.

Ebonite's TNV...was a distant 2nd.

slap · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2007, 03:37:24 PM »

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I've heard the BTM rating on the Break on medium was the highest ever given. 9,9,9.5,9.5 if I recall the only other ball given such a rating was the Threshold. I was told by BTM it was the highest ever. That's the facts I've been given. I rather have the balls speak for themselves so I do not have to spend all those marketing $$$ to tell people how great we are.

Is that supposed to 9.9, 9.5, 9.5?
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newguy · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2007, 09:32:47 PM »

9, 9.5, 9.5 is correct I had too many ratings. BTW the BW is a great ball no doubt, sales have proven that. My question is how much money have you made from all the balls on TV? Unless you are a shop and sell only what is thrown on tv it may not be as helpful. They have a great staff and the ball worked great on tour again no dispute here, how many tour stops and tour condition have you bowled? We can only be happy with our own product and we are not trying to compete or duplicate with any other companies balls or their performance. We make balls for our own supporters, for their own arsenals.I've done that a few times in my life and have been as I'm told lucky to have a fair ball or two in my day.
BTM rated the balls not us, we are only relating what we were told. We are very happy with our first launch and believe it is only the start of something great. We should begin shipping the week of the 23rd (keeping my finger crossed).

onlybowling · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2007, 12:38:29 AM »

A solid benchmark ball is the most used ball in my bag.

I am looking forward to this ball.
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BShep · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2007, 01:19:48 AM »

I'm looking forward to this release.
For the record, I remembered the SR300 review in BTM being talked as the highest rated ball ever. Upon checking the June/July 2006 issue, it's rated 9.5/9.5/10 for medium conditions. Within the comments section, it's stated, "The SR300 received the best ratings on this pattern that we have ever given a ball."
The SR300 didn't fly off the shelf, so hopefully The Break can exceed the BTM expectations of the SR300.

strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #23 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:32:52 PM »

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oh..and PS...that BW ball...was used even more extensively in the qualifing rounds...from the 1st tourney of the year to the last!

and in case you doubt my words...the PBA man in charge of production's w/ESPN lives in my county...he used to drill on the truck...Mr. Jeff E.

Ebonite's TNV...was a distant 2nd.

Ummm...OK. How many telecasts did Ebonite/Hammer make compared to Storm. There have been cases - more than the other companies - where my customers and others have experienced ball death, but other than that I have even stated it is a good ball OOB. If any one knows in bowling professional tournaments, there are more people using SOLID equipment more than pearls or particles because they give you a better read like the BW has.

The conclusions that we made were very clear that the Break was much more versatile. Let us be real about something else. How many people have you heard from about ball death and cover issues - prep or what have you - on here or any where else? I can promise that it has come more from Ebonite/Hammer than any other company. Let's be honest, there just is not everyone out there whom can afford to pay for a new ball every other month or so. Ebonite produces a great product out of the box, but they do need to make a significant change to their covers. Just to get some facts straight, Storm is making the first run on the Break.
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2007, 01:49:53 PM »

Hey newguy i have one thing to say to you the name Steve Jaro's pick him up and have a good staff to get you started in the right direction.

Steve is one of the nicest and most talented players out there, i am not sure he is open to signing but he should be the guy you pick up.

Too bad you could not bring back Steve Hoskin's he was one of the best bowlers there was, he is only 38 years old and i am sure he misses the action. Tell him insurace sales is getting old and the tour needs him at least part time.

qstick777 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:12:59 PM »

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Let's be honest, there just is not everyone out there whom can afford to pay for a new ball every other month or so. Ebonite produces a great product out of the box, but they do need to make a significant change to their covers. Just to get some facts straight, Storm is making the first run on the Break.
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I tend to agree with the statement about Ebonite's covers. I can't really say it is a good or bad thing, but I feel that if they can formulate covers to manipulate oil absorption, they can also dictate the longevity.

That may be great for those that can afford a new ball every other month and need the high performance for tournaments, etc. Not so good for Joe Schmoe league bowler that only wants to buy a new ball every few years.

Although we can't really expect to have it both ways - companies don't stay in business by making stuff that never dies - imagine never needing a new TV, car, shoes, etc. The idea of planned obsolescence is nothing new.

I'm confused about that comment about Storm. Is Storm making the first batch of Break balls, or are they being made in San Antonio (old Columbia factory)?
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RadioActive · « **Reply #26 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:14:18 PM »

My BW has paid for its self many many many times over and is still the first ball out of the bag. I would have to compare these two myself to believe this. I have been disappointed too many times by the next great ball that was hyped on here or in Bj or BTM.
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sammy the sage · « **Reply #27 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:43:24 PM »

1st of all you compared ball's not company's...now you're comparing company's not ball's?....HELLO

2nd...the sr300 was the highest rated ball ever by BTM...

yet one of fastest ever to be discontinued...Hmmm...and not used much on pba as well...several different conclusion's could be made or infered....but every--one will have a different take...

as far as the break being better than BW...

you'll have to pardon us while we wait to see more EVIDENCE on the NEXT BIG/GREAT/AWESOME/WHATEVER thing!!!!!!!

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #28 on:** July 19, 2007, 02:58:56 PM »

I always felt when watching the BW that it's strength was not how HARD it came of the spot but how smooth it came off but with continuous angularity!

Just sort of what my eye saw...

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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #29 on:** July 19, 2007, 03:07:38 PM »

Yep i have a new BW that is pin under ring 4 1/2 pin to pap and mb strong, the ball is super smooth the entire lane. My first BW was pin up with late revs and it was an over/under nightmare of how it would hook.

The Bw can be made to do alot of different looks and the change of pin position over or under fingers with only 1/2" difference combined with the shift to stronger mb proves it too me.

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I always felt when watching the BW that it's strength was not how HARD it came of the spot but how smooth it came off but with continuous angularity!

Just sort of what my eye saw...

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katel · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2007, 03:53:21 PM »

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Yep i have a new BW that is pin under ring 4 1/2 pin to pap and mb strong, the ball is super smooth the entire lane. My first BW was pin up with late revs and it was an over/under nightmare of how it would hook.

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Funny ! My BW has the described layout (pin over ring - 4 1/2" with MB strong)
and I can it play almost everywhere (inside or outside; with a good amount of oil or on pretty burnt shots).
But my opinion on the BW is the same : VERY controllable with an late and angular move, fantastic carry on almost every line -> a frustrating nightmare for the opponent...

(The pearl BW is a good ball too, but not so easy to control than her sister - more over / under - but not so bad like some Storm Pearls e.g. Domination.)

But back to topic : It seems that many bowler here think similar on the BW. Ok, the cover is high maintain stuff.

As I posted before : I can`t believe that the break can beat these odds but I am looking forward to see it in action.

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