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lefty50

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Mega Friction = Particle???
« on: February 19, 2009, 03:54:46 PM »
Was starting to buy into the hype surrounding this ball already and put my next purchase (A Virtual Gravity, which shall remain nameless) on hold pending reviews, but now I see that the Mega may have a particle load? I'm not a particle fan at all... Bummer if true, can anyone confirm?
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 07:48:05 AM »
Tizzle, will be interested to hear your opinions, please let me know what you think about the choices..
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 01:11:24 PM »
Went out on fresh medium heavy and I polished the piss out of the Mega Friction last night on high speed with water burning in Ebonite Extender on top of Valentino's Snake Oil on top of box.

Came out nice and shiny finally but let me you this ball handles oil like a dream and now the backend has become nice and strong with a great arc shape to it.

Honestly struck about 80 percent with it and it never checked up, I had my VG at 2k no polish and it was stronger some shots but all over the place as usual.

The VG is pin over ring 4 1/2 to pap and the mb is right and below my thumb in the 5 inch to pap area.

The Mega started with a pin down 4 inch drilling with the cg towards grip center and 4 3/4 area.

I also had a T-Road Solid at 1k abralon pin down 4 1/2 pin to pap and cg at 4 3/4 below with a weight hole on my pap. It was closer to the same roll as the Mega minus about 5 boards of extra back end reaction.

Went detailed for you and hope you appreciate it, actually tested these side by side just for you to be honest. You have a fair comparison now so make your own choice and hopefully it works out well for you.  



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lefty50

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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 06:47:44 PM »
Great info, truly appreciated. I'm leaning towards a Mega over VG now that much is certain.

MrB, what's your rev rate and speed if I may ask?
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 12:49:12 AM »
lefty- take a look in the roto section for the review of the rogue/mars from the demo day. also you want to look at the ebonite magic, to date it is the most angular piece I have thrown, and hits about the same as the mf.. very close

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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 09:01:40 AM »
Probably 320 revs give or take and pretty high speed around 19 mph if i am playing normal which I was yesterday morning.

magic is anothe great ball like Tizzle suggested coming off a 760 from last Monday night with it. Less in oil handling but much more overall back end motion, dulled down it could be be really strong but why touch such a great rolling ball.

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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2009, 09:54:44 AM »
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I appreciate all the input. I can accept the potential that particle technology has advanced and may be worth a relook. Cahrlest, let me worry about my disservice, ok? At current ball prices, the only thing that is a "disservice" is the constant hyping of new balls as greater than sliced bread. I bought into that with the Lane 1 BuzzBust already. Fool me twice, shame on me. I encourage everyone to ignore the hype and wait for results from real bowlers who don't have tag lines "amateur staff", "pro shop", etc.
Always thought it would be a great idea for companies to throw a few seed balls to average house scratch bowlers who can give honest opinions.

I am curious about the potential of the advances though, and always keep an open mind. I'll sit back and see what the first few results are...

Then again, it might be interesting to pick up a Mega, take it to Nationals in a few weeks, and see what happens. Reporting back the honest results, of course... This would give all the "There are no bad balls" group a reason to type.


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I agree with the amatuer staff posts. I recommend you look at the Bowling This Month they are an independent tester and have rated the Mega Friction as the most hooking ball of the year.

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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2009, 10:13:32 AM »
You're right newguy. I received my BTM Saturday and was plesantly surprised to find the Mega in there.
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2009, 11:06:33 AM »
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I encourage everyone to ignore the hype and wait for results from real bowlers who don't have tag lines "amateur staff", "pro shop", etc.


Why?  Did what I state appear biased towards AMF or was it just informative?  I mentioned 3 companies "Bruns", "Columbia" and "Storm" that in all their original design were very early rolling.  From trial and error, they learned to adjust from that to create a different reaction.

Then I mention "Track" and "Bruns" again in regards to pieces where they have tweaked or adjusted their original philosophy, that's all.  I have no personal interest in AMF nor am I a staffer for them, I'm simply trying to offer information that your regular "Joe Bowler" isn't privy to not having run a shop for many years or can even attend seminars so they can educate or know how to service their customers better.

Again lefty, you're generalizing with this comment just as you're generalizing with your perception of particle.  What didn't work for you may work for someone else, mainly why Joe Bowler doesn't get seed balls.  That's only one type of game where as I see and drill for many.  Does Joe Bowler know the difference from a rev dominant player to a speed dominant player, do they even know what and how tilt and axis rotation affect ball reaction?  For those who do, guess what, some do get seed balls....they become staffers.

If you look at my profile, I'm a Track guy...so what's my interest or gain being here trying to help?  AND I'm doing this for free....sheesh!  No wonder so many people leave this site....
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2009, 09:07:16 PM »
Rick, take a breath. You've misunderstood my comment. Certainly nothing agsainst you. Your commentary and valuable assistance have withstood the test of time. I do however, still stand by the statement. If I had the proverbial nickel for every time someone with a bias posted "wow, best ball ever"... Jeez. I also proudly stand in the group who are tired of always seeing biased commentary. I do not currently consider you in that group. Your membership in it is up to you
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2009, 01:53:21 PM »
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Rick, take a breath. You've misunderstood my comment. Certainly nothing agsainst you. Your commentary and valuable assistance have withstood the test of time.


Sorry for the blow-up lefty but you posted this after my explanation (and I have pro shop in my sig), how was I to know you "didn't" mean me?

This just happens to be a sore spot for me.  Carl Hurd and myself have gone thru this for so long as to our opinions and how we weren't being honest and that just burns me up.  

I ran a full service shop where if I wanted to retain a customer, it was/is always much more important to fit that customer to the right piece vs the company I was sponsored by.  The company didn't pay me, my customers did...for my service, knowledge and honesty.  I simply transfer that mentality to here.

The thing I still like to say in regards to what we read here is that we're seeing a person's "opinion".  Right or wrong, it's just an opinion.  When you walk in a shop, you're still getting someone's "opinion" whether he is on staff or not, we still have the ability to decipher whether or not we like that person's opinion.  

 
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No worries on this end.


Same here bud...

BTW, I'm here not only to help but I was very interested in the Mega as well.  I want something to eat thru the OB at Nats so I don't feel like I have half a board to play with.

Oh Eric T, please check your pm's.  Thanks....
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2009, 02:03:57 PM »
better off sending et an e-mail he doesn't hang here much, too busy
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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2009, 01:51:27 PM »
Okay, thanks Steve.
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Mr bowlingnut,

Would you say you get the same reaction from this ball at Samstown's "house" shot?  I know that shot some so it'll give me a better idea of how strong it really is, thanks for your help.

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Re: Mega Friction = Particle???
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2009, 02:55:59 PM »
Rick unless they flood that Sam's Town house shot it will burn in the heads oob, I have mine twice shined with snake oil and extender now it is still a very good oiler.Remember AMF lane beds and a cake house pattern mean early friction, at a Brunswick house maybe a chance on the fresh.

Nothing touches the Mega oob I mean nothing at all, this is a whole different rolling ball.

I am going to 2k abby no polish for the nationals shot as an inside option or from possibly the out of bounds and bump off it.

I have a feeling that my 2nd Dimension will be my go to ball there, honestly pretty nervous not to let down my team this week. Being my first nationals it could go good or really bad, coming off of a low series of 601 out of the last 6 outings so I have been rolling well for me overall.


Back to 2k abby right now dang is this ball dull again lol Ready for nationals hope to shoot at least 1700 for my first time there.

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