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thegrinch

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dry to light oil ball
« on: November 18, 2013, 04:03:18 AM »
what balls can anyone recommend under these conditions:

1. kegel easy street 18.7 ml oil

FORWARD DISTANCE: 38
 
REVERSE DISTANCE 33

                             FORWARD    REVERSE     TOTAL
         OIL VOLUME: 7.25 mL      11.45 mL    18.70 mL
BOARDS CROSSED: 145 Boards 229 Boards  374 Boards

lanes are oiled like this twice daily at 8 am and 5 pm
a league starts at 6:30 pm and ends at 9:00 pm and consists of 4 man teams 3 games each.

my league starts at 9:30 pm and the lanes are predictably effed up after the first game

I would like a ball that gives me the most control on these conditions and a drilling layout that gives the best control and pin action.

its also important to note the lanes are wooden and it is a ths if that helps.

my current choices as far as balls are concerned are:

Columbia freeze
Brunswick slingshot
storm tropical breeze

also im looking for a good spare ball and am interested in the storm ice. any thoughts suggestions would be great
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 04:07:37 AM by thegrinch »

 

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 09:26:50 AM »
My preference is the Freeze, although I have not used the Slingshot or Tropical Breeze.

I bowl in a 9 PM league, so our conditions are probably similar to those that you described. I like the Freeze because it has nice length with a smooth and even arc. It is pretty predictable.
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 09:59:30 AM »
Something very controlled...Lane 1 SOS, they just had a remake....great dry lane ball

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 10:56:15 AM »
Something very controlled...Lane 1 SOS, they just had a remake....great dry lane ball


Something very controlled...Lane 1 SOS, they just had a remake....great dry lane ball


+1 One of the best dry lane balls ever produced.

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 11:35:44 AM »
what balls can anyone recommend under these conditions:

1. kegel easy street 18.7 ml oil

FORWARD DISTANCE: 38
 
REVERSE DISTANCE 33

                             FORWARD    REVERSE     TOTAL
         OIL VOLUME: 7.25 mL      11.45 mL    18.70 mL
BOARDS CROSSED: 145 Boards 229 Boards  374 Boards

lanes are oiled like this twice daily at 8 am and 5 pm
a league starts at 6:30 pm and ends at 9:00 pm and consists of 4 man teams 3 games each.

my league starts at 9:30 pm and the lanes are predictably effed up after the first game

I would like a ball that gives me the most control on these conditions and a drilling layout that gives the best control and pin action.

its also important to note the lanes are wooden and it is a ths if that helps.

my current choices as far as balls are concerned are:

Columbia freeze
Brunswick slingshot
storm tropical breeze

also im looking for a good spare ball and am interested in the storm ice. any thoughts suggestions would be great

What type of bowler are you?  Faster ball speed (18+mph), Slower ball speed (less than 16mph), average ball speed (16-17mph)?  Cranker (high ball rotation), stroker (low ball rotation), or tweener (average ball rotation)?

Reason I ask is because the Freeze is quite a bit more ball than the Tropical Breeze and the Slingshot fits in the middle.  What balls are you currently using?
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 11:43:04 AM »
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What type of bowler are you?  Faster ball speed (18+mph), Slower ball speed (less than 16mph), average ball speed (16-17mph)?

Ball speed where?  Most never state this correctly and get bad ball and layout advise.  It's a pet peeve of mine.   ;)

Go here to get your correct info.  Crap in crap out.  Best to have a good pro shop operator fit you correctly.   Some don't have that choice but that's where I'd be going.  Net fittings are good in a general sense.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Proshop_Information#Bowler_Measurements_.26_Reference
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 11:53:43 AM »
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What type of bowler are you?  Faster ball speed (18+mph), Slower ball speed (less than 16mph), average ball speed (16-17mph)?

Ball speed where?  Most never state this correctly and get bad ball and layout advise.  It's a pet peeve of mine.   ;)

Go here to get your correct info.  Crap in crap out.  Best to have a good pro shop operator fit you correctly.   Some don't have that choice but that's where I'd be going.  Net fittings are good in a general sense.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Proshop_Information#Bowler_Measurements_.26_Reference

I always base ball speed at release.
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 11:55:46 AM »
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What type of bowler are you?  Faster ball speed (18+mph), Slower ball speed (less than 16mph), average ball speed (16-17mph)?

Ball speed where?  Most never state this correctly and get bad ball and layout advise.  It's a pet peeve of mine.   ;)

Go here to get your correct info.  Crap in crap out.  Best to have a good pro shop operator fit you correctly.   Some don't have that choice but that's where I'd be going.  Net fittings are good in a general sense.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Proshop_Information#Bowler_Measurements_.26_Reference

I always base ball speed at release.

Agreed Steve BUT most bowlers don't know that info. and assumptions are made that it's the camera based speed that they see at many bowling centers and that's where it gets way off kilter and bad choices are made.  I knew what you were basing it off of but I doubt many do.  I think you can figure 1 1/2 mph to 2 mph depending on how much the ball is covering at the backend off of hand/release ball speeds in general.  Good post Steve!
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 12:04:43 PM »

The Strike King with a stable layout is my current choice when they get pretty dry.

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 12:40:07 PM »

The Strike King with a stable layout is my current choice when they get pretty dry.

Considering the fact that I have a Strike King and was surprised at how strongly it reacts to dry, what do you consider a "stable layout"?

Without knowing the Op's speed, tilt or rev rate, I would go with a pin down Tropical Breeze if the lanes are really breaking down fast and you get substantial dry areas to deal with. This is just based on my own personal experience with the three balls listed above. The Freeze, to me, is a medium to medium lite oil ball, dependng on drilling.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 12:47:44 PM by Jesse James »
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 01:07:39 PM »
"Considering the fact that I have a Strike King and was surprised at how strongly it reacts to dry, what do you consider a "stable layout"?"


Jesse,

Mine is "Rico" for overall smoothness, but I would easily recommend a 2" pin-to-PAP layout to keep the ball from being too angular and more predictable.  The cover should still get it easily through the heads, but the move down lane will more predictable.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 01:10:02 PM by notclay »

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 01:08:22 PM »
How about a urethane?  I love my Roto Grenade, and just got a Storm Super Natural last week.  Only practiced 3 games with the SN on a burnt up shot, wood lanes and absolutely love the Super Natural!  Going to use it in league tonight, so hopefully my love will grow!  Only thing is it's a sports league and on fresh oil, so we will see.  I also just got a C300 Freeze (Blue/Yellow/Purple(?)) and it is a ton stronger than the SN. 

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 01:17:54 PM »

Urethane can certainly help you control reaction, but there's a few things to remember:

1- Wipe it off religiously. The oil sits on the cover.  No soaking in with these, at least it takes much longer.

2- Play straighter lines, because typically urethane won't let you open up the angles very much, due to it's slower response time to friction.

The Super Natural is possibly the exception because it's not 100% urethane.  If I understand correctly, there's some reactive resin in the mix.

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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 01:39:39 PM »



Jesse,

Mine is "Rico" for overall smoothness, but I would easily recommend a 2" pin-to-PAP layout to keep the ball from being too angular and more predictable.  The cover should still get it easily through the heads, but the move down lane will more predictable.

Thanks for the tip! Oh, and I love the core of this ball which has the Brunswick Logo embedded in it! Nice!!
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Re: dry to light oil ball
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 03:08:40 PM »
For light/dry conditions I recommend the Motiv Recon Silver or MoRich Mojave.