Author Topic: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes) (Read 12663 times)

boondoggle · « **on:** August 23, 2007, 08:29:35 AM »

First game 300 to 279.

Part 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lodT9V_14

Part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU5z2MENag

If you squint you can see speed and RPM numbers

Looks like Moor is low 300s. Belmonte is high 500s.

Also at the end of the match they show an overhead diagram of the line each bowler was taking and an overlay of the variance in their shot.

lsf_21 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2007, 12:11:00 AM »

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Im surprised the cover on the ball wasn't peeling off onto the lanes after each shot. That is an enormous amount of revolutions. If im not mistaken he threw one ball with I think 585 revolutions on it. The pins don't have a prayer. Don't have to worry about to many corner pins with screaming messengers flying around. I don't even think Robert Smith puts that much zip on the ball
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revTrex · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2007, 01:37:01 AM »

Go to the third part (the second game). Last shot by Belmonte...one handed...and he still throws one hell of a ball.

Belmo = Burly Australian = Beast

Plus, he looks darn good on the BJI cover.

302efi · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:52:46 AM »

Did anyone notice the back curtian in pretty much touching the back pins !!!!!

With the back curtian right on the pins or touching them, you know theres going to be better carry.

I'm thinking the lanes and pit are setup for scores like that...

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Siniak · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2007, 08:52:09 AM »

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Storm International staffer Jason Belmonte won his first World Tenpin Masters title in the third attempt as he posted the second 300 game (Special Agent) in the history of the event to help him go past Englandâ€™s Paul Moor by 566-524 at Metrodome Center in Barnsley, South Yorkshire, England.

quote:
Belmonte used the Storm Thunderstruck Solid and Special Agent in the tournament.

http://stormbowling.com/bowling-news/story.asp?enewsid=2341&intl=

Jock · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2007, 04:55:47 AM »

Did anyone notice the back curtian in pretty much touching the back pins !!!!!

With the back curtian right on the pins or touching them, you know theres going to be better carry.

I'm thinking the lanes and pit are setup for scores like that...

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There just had to be someone to say something like that! And were you thinking, because it wasn't bowled in America by a PBA pro, it's not good!

OK, answer this question:-

If "the back curtian right on the pins or touching them", then how does the ball get off the pin deck? To the side?

Even if the match was a tie 300 - 300 someone will surely say that the conditions were fixed so that they could do that.

Is it that hard to say "Well bowled"!
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #21 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:07:35 AM »

Even if the lane setup would promote high scores, it is the same lane for both players in the tournament.

And this format is not easy. If you have seen other matches from it (previous years), you will find that in the earlier final stages some players really struggled with the single lane condition and how the lane changes, especially when both play a similar line.
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302efi · « **Reply #22 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:07:52 AM »

Jock I don't care if the guys were American or not...I'm not sure how you got that outta what I said.

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If "the back curtian right on the pins or touching them", then how does the ball get off the pin deck? To the side?

Are you blind ?...Look at the ball when as its going through the pins !

The ball hits the bottem part of the curtian BEFORE it even leaves the deck !

Can you not see that ?!?!?!...The black reflection after ever strike.

The curtian flap when the ball hits it...

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Edited on 9/19/2007 5:09 AM

302efi · « **Reply #23 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:14:16 AM »

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Even if the lane setup would promote high scores, it is the same lane for both players in the tournament.

Dizzy...I'm not talking about the whole tournament, just that lane for the TV match.

1.You got all the people there that came there to see strikes.
2.Partypoker.net does not want 150's bowled for a tourney their sponsering on TV.
3. Who the hell only bowls on 1 lane ?

I think you can agree that this lane was "fixed" a little for some higher scores.

Anybody got scores for the whole tourny ?
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302efi · « **Reply #24 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:22:34 AM »

Just so you guys can see what I'm talking about, check out these vids:

Buddues Pro Shop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxH9zPx18wo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOuXqgAAE2k&mode=related&search=

BrunsNick:
http://www.brunsnick.com/brunswick_fury.html
http://www.brunsnick.com/red_zone.html

Video Ball reviews:
http://www.videoballreviews.com/global.html
http://www.videoballreviews.com/visionary.html

Wheres the back curtian in these vids

?

Where it SHOULD BE !!

Compare these vids to the ones of the tourney and you'll see what I mean ...

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Siniak · « **Reply #25 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:50:19 AM »

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Dizzy...I'm not talking about the whole tournament, just that lane for the TV match.

That one lane is used for the entire tournament. It's a 16 player invitational.

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Anybody got scores for the whole tourny ?

http://worldtenpinmasters.com/staticPage.asp?strPageName=Results

302efi · « **Reply #26 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:58:40 AM »

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That one lane is used for the entire tournament. It's a 16 player invitational.

So your saying they never re-oil the lanes at all during the tournament ?

If that the same oil from the start of the match, I'm gonna have to call BS.

Theres no way BELMONTE could play that line with a Special Agent with 525rpms on the ball if that the same oil from the very start of the tournament.

Found this info on the website:
Each match will be played over two games with the bowler
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Siniak · « **Reply #27 on:** September 19, 2007, 06:19:41 AM »

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So your saying they never re-oil the lanes at all during the tournament ?

No I'm just saying they used that same lane for every match of the tournament, since you commented that they might have increased scoring capabilities for the tv lane.
I have no idea how often they reoiled the lane.

Edited on 9/19/2007 6:20 AM

The Ratpack · « **Reply #28 on:** September 19, 2007, 06:36:33 AM »

To settle any confusion they bowl all the games on the single lane and the lane is re-oiled after every match, all matches are bowled over two games with the highest aggregate score winning.

Grayson · « **Reply #29 on:** September 19, 2007, 06:58:42 AM »

still.. even if they used another oiling on the final... both players made it there and so they only have to beat each other... so it is fair imo

the rounds before that there might be a more difficult pattern...still this tournament as far as I remember was a 1on1 and so both players had the same conditions.

And in the end it should be entertaining so there is a point in getting scores higher... though I find it more entertaining when splits are converted. My 0.02.

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302efi · « **Reply #30 on:** September 19, 2007, 03:28:11 PM »

I'm not saying it wasnt a fair match, I'm just saying that the lane was a little "fixed" for some higher scores

There were both bowling on the same shot, same lanes ect..so its pretty fair. I

I was was just saying the they were wetup for higher socres.
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