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bighook69

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Working on release video
« on: January 24, 2010, 01:37:18 PM »
Working on my release lately, was relatively behind the ball at release before but was not happy still with where I was at, so I worked on staying behind the ball more and trying to "snap" the ball off downward instead of turning the ball... so far it seems to be working ok and I am pretty happy with where I am at. Anyone have any opinions?
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astrodanco

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 12:16:57 PM »
Nice.  You're way ahead of most people who post videos here.  Not that I'm qualified to comment, because I'm not, but aren't you leaning too far forward at the waist now?  I like both releases actually.  Do you have any other releases in your arsenal?
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bighook69

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 12:27:29 PM »
Thanks. I may be, I tend to lean a bit, another one of those things on the "to-do list" .

As I'm sure you and everyone here probably has I have a number of little tweaks I can make to my release to adjust to lanes

I really want one of those 300fps cameras... anyone know of a good one?
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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 01:46:22 PM »
The release is looking pretty good, you''re definitely getting behind it much more. I think the question becomes how consistently are you able to produce it. Other than that, it''s definitely much more through the ball



depending on your budget, casio''s exilim fh series is writing the book on cameras with hd recording at 120,220,300,480, and even 1000 fps

Great cameras in their own, with excellent slow motion capability.

I''ve used the fh100 (not released yet, but worth waiting for) and fh20, both are simple to use, and produce excellent results.  I think the fh100 is the best for low light situations, like bowling, because of the backlit cmos sensor.

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r534me

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 05:12:49 PM »
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Working on my release lately, was relatively behind the ball at release before but was not happy still with where I was at, so I worked on staying behind the ball more and trying to "snap" the ball off downward instead of turning the ball... so far it seems to be working ok and I am pretty happy with where I am at. Anyone have any opinions?
Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCyYzrr7aKg


Your current release is...awesome.  One of the best releases I've seen in this section.  If you put that release next to CB, TJ, etc. most people probably couldn't tell the difference.  Okay, that might be pushing it but it's quite good and worthy of more videos.
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icewall

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 05:28:46 PM »
i like your release. it is exactly what i have been working on lately (staying behind the ball... helping to push the ball further and in turn controlling my breakpoint). the hardest part is repetition.

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bighook69

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 07:27:37 PM »
Thanks for the kind words guys

I have put a lot of work in trying to get it to where it is, and I know what you mean Icewall, the hardest part right now is repeating! Ever since getting a few pointers from Bill O about how to try and stay behind it I have been working on it every chance I get, its good to know you guys think it looks decent.
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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 09:57:43 PM »
I think the Casio fh100, which hasn't been released yet and so hasn't come down in price yet is probably the one to get.  The year old fh20 just isn't good enough for the price and the fh1 is both very pricey and getting rather long in the tooth.  I'm not aware of any other reasonably priced high speed digital cameras.  I imagine it would take one hell of a bright light indoors in order to shoot at the 1000 FPS speed.  But even the other speeds are probably best with an extra spotlight on the subject?
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r534me

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 01:40:37 AM »
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Thanks for the kind words guys

I have put a lot of work in trying to get it to where it is, and I know what you mean Icewall, the hardest part right now is repeating! Ever since getting a few pointers from Bill O about how to try and stay behind it I have been working on it every chance I get, its good to know you guys think it looks decent.


What pointers did he give you?  I have been working on my release since last summer and I have three variations of it and I can execute them about 75% of the time.  The other 25% I will goof up and miss on the bottom or turn it early, etc.  I think some of it is unrelated to the release itself but other aspects of bowling, ie footwork or kneebend, etc.
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bighook69

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 08:56:10 AM »
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Thanks for the kind words guys

I have put a lot of work in trying to get it to where it is, and I know what you mean Icewall, the hardest part right now is repeating! Ever since getting a few pointers from Bill O about how to try and stay behind it I have been working on it every chance I get, its good to know you guys think it looks decent.


What pointers did he give you?  I have been working on my release since last summer and I have three variations of it and I can execute them about 75% of the time.  The other 25% I will goof up and miss on the bottom or turn it early, etc.  I think some of it is unrelated to the release itself but other aspects of bowling, ie footwork or kneebend, etc.


He gave a couple tips, the best one was to try and sort of squeeze with your finger-tips... and feel your fingers at the bottom of the release and wait for the ball to just fall off your hand rather than you actually try and hit up on it. lol, sorry but thats the best way I can explain it over the internet
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r534me

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 01:24:06 AM »
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Thanks for the kind words guys

I have put a lot of work in trying to get it to where it is, and I know what you mean Icewall, the hardest part right now is repeating! Ever since getting a few pointers from Bill O about how to try and stay behind it I have been working on it every chance I get, its good to know you guys think it looks decent.


What pointers did he give you?  I have been working on my release since last summer and I have three variations of it and I can execute them about 75% of the time.  The other 25% I will goof up and miss on the bottom or turn it early, etc.  I think some of it is unrelated to the release itself but other aspects of bowling, ie footwork or kneebend, etc.


He gave a couple tips, the best one was to try and sort of squeeze with your finger-tips... and feel your fingers at the bottom of the release and wait for the ball to just fall off your hand rather than you actually try and hit up on it. lol, sorry but thats the best way I can explain it over the internet


That's pretty much what I do but I haven't been waiting.  The last couple of days I tried waiting and getting low at the line and I have been more consistent and the ball has lots of revs on it.  I confirm this by putting a big piece of tape opposite my track and watching it as it goes through the heads.  I did this on a 40 foot THS 6 to 6.  I refused to play the dry boards so I was 8 or 9.  

Put some more videos up when you can.
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bighook69

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 01:29:37 AM »
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Thanks for the kind words guys

I have put a lot of work in trying to get it to where it is, and I know what you mean Icewall, the hardest part right now is repeating! Ever since getting a few pointers from Bill O about how to try and stay behind it I have been working on it every chance I get, its good to know you guys think it looks decent.


What pointers did he give you?  I have been working on my release since last summer and I have three variations of it and I can execute them about 75% of the time.  The other 25% I will goof up and miss on the bottom or turn it early, etc.  I think some of it is unrelated to the release itself but other aspects of bowling, ie footwork or kneebend, etc.


He gave a couple tips, the best one was to try and sort of squeeze with your finger-tips... and feel your fingers at the bottom of the release and wait for the ball to just fall off your hand rather than you actually try and hit up on it. lol, sorry but thats the best way I can explain it over the internet


That's pretty much what I do but I haven't been waiting.  The last couple of days I tried waiting and getting low at the line and I have been more consistent and the ball has lots of revs on it.  I confirm this by putting a big piece of tape opposite my track and watching it as it goes through the heads.  I did this on a 40 foot THS 6 to 6.  I refused to play the dry boards so I was 8 or 9.  

Put some more videos up when you can.


Sounds good, put up some vids of your own
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r534me

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 03:10:57 AM »
Both of my dig cams are broken.
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AngloBowler

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 04:31:37 AM »
Looks like a nice "power" release, similar to a right-handed jason couch I think. I would highly recommend buying a good tripod, I think you'd be surprised at how much better the slow-mos will be when there's no camera-shake, even without a high frame rate video camera.

I've got some videos online where the slow mo looks pretty good, shot with an old standard def camera, so it can be done.
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bighook69

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Re: Working on release video
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 02:28:01 PM »
unfortunately all my video's were taken with a digital camera.... lol, I am looking for my first camera at this point
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