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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2016, 06:46:51 PM »
I thought being south of the border was supposed to cut cost?

The Quantum is less expensive than it was 20 years ago. Plus, there is a free triple tote bag.
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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2016, 06:52:36 PM »
I thought being south of the border was supposed to cut cost?

The Quantum is less expensive than it was 20 years ago. Plus, there is a free triple tote bag.

Yeah, I vaguely remember the Helix being retailed at $300, not sure but I think if you purchased a Helix you got a free Indigo Quantum spare ball. I remember asking my parents to get me one...until they saw the price tag! lol I ended up getting a Danger Zone and it was money for me! lol
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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2016, 06:53:22 PM »
I thought being south of the border was supposed to cut cost?

The Quantum is less expensive than it was 20 years ago. Plus, there is a free triple tote bag.
All balls are cheaper than the Quantum was 20 years ago, no?  ;) I'm anxious to see your video and how it compares to others in the price range, from Brunswick of course.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2016, 07:28:27 PM »
I had a Forest Green Quantum. Ball was money. I'd try a Fire Pearl if it gets the 8 out.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2016, 07:31:34 PM »
With inflation, $300 in 1996 is about $450 in 2016.

So yes.... Quantum is less "expensive" than it was 20 years ago.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2016, 09:20:36 PM »
I remember when the Forest Green, Midnight Blue, and Scarlet urethane hit in 1994 and cost $200 out the door at the shop. People were going nuts over the cost and how could the ball be this expensive. Now we don't blink an eye at that.

Although I throw VBP, I still scour ebay for 14# Original NIB Quantums to store away. Don't find them very often.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2016, 08:24:35 AM »
Here's my simple issue with the pricing.  Cover is the main determination in reaction.  The covers are the same as the Danger Zone yet they want to charge almost $60 more.

Buy a DZ, sand it to 1000 and save yourself $60.  This is assuming the price stays the same after the bag promotion.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2016, 09:56:25 AM »
Here's my simple issue with the pricing.  Cover is the main determination in reaction.  The covers are the same as the Danger Zone yet they want to charge almost $60 more.

Buy a DZ, sand it to 1000 and save yourself $60.  This is assuming the price stays the same after the bag promotion.

If you think that the cover is the main factor in reaction you are kidding yourself.  If all cores were the same then you would be correct but all are not the same.  The core has as much (if not more) to do with reaction as the coverstock.  The two really work together to get the desired reaction.
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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2016, 11:01:43 AM »
The surface of the ball will have the most bearing on how the ball will react to the lane.  But the Quantum does not use filler, so the coverstock is the material filling the ball outside the core.  According to Brunswick;

"More coverstock enhances the Coefficient of Restitution which is the ratio of the differences in velocity between two objects before and after a collision. The higher the restitution, the faster the pins will move after being struck by the ball, transferring that increased kinetic energy to the surrounding pins producing greater pin action!"

That is what makes the new Quantum series coverstock different from the Danger Zone's coverstock.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2016, 11:04:01 AM »
The HyRoad does not use filler. Price has been upper mid for 8 years now.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2016, 11:08:03 AM »
I don't think. I know.  This is from over 20 years of drilling countless bowling balls, competing internationally and being on various staffs. 

If you guys want to buy into the marketing hype of increased COR, go ahead.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2016, 11:20:58 AM »
Balls get to the COR limit with filler.  You can only "enhance" something so far.  The rest is marketing for a product that is premium priced and cheaper to produce.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2016, 11:41:22 AM »
Itsallaboutme and I have spoken MANY times and he knows what he is talking about. The only aspect I want to point out to some folks is I wonder how much R&D Brunswick went through to find the right core shapes for each weight to keep the dynamic integrity  from 16 to 15 to 14#s. I wonder how many hours were put in, how many core molds were tried, test balls poured, etc that all contributes to money Brunswick has to recoup in product sales. Core molds, the last time I knew, were very expensive to make.

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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2016, 11:52:55 AM »
I went from playing blades in the early 90's to my last set R7's (don't play golf anymore) and I did notice the difference in trajectory, distance, etc... with golf clubs.

In 2007/8, after bowling for 7 years after a long lay off, I realized these high tech bowling balls were not doing anything different on the lanes for me. Not like golf clubs. That's when I started buying discounted bowling balls. In the last 8 years, I bought one high end ball at regular price, Storms VIVID.

I was fortunate to also be around guys who are/were in the industry.  I got to see how balls were made too. And I'm thankful for that. Winning and cashing with lower end balls and discounted balls, well that's enough for me.
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Re: Brunswick Quantum
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2016, 12:40:31 PM »
From what I've seen the Quantum's are going for $179 wasn't the VDZ $149? I realize that an increase of $30 but there's a lot more cover involved with the Quantum. I figure that would increase cost to some extent. They are also including a free bag now will that price hold after the bag deal is gone I doubt it. If I had room in my bag I would buy it love my VDZ but the balls appear at least somewhat similar to me.

As far as the COR stuff goes this isn't the first ball made this way and it won't be the last another that hasn't been mentioned is the RG Hysteria was also no filler ball I believe. My guess is any difference is minimal or the manufactures would have went back to no filler balls a long time ago.