Author Topic: Fire Quantum Question (Read 3670 times)

98custom · « **on:** April 29, 2006, 05:25:34 AM »

Just recently picked up a used fire quantum with approx 20 games in it and the thing looks brand new. (complements to bowlingball.com) I have never seen anyone throw this ball so i'm going purely off the specs when i drill this ball. Has anyone had any experience with it as far as what to expect on todays conditions. I'm thinkin of drilling it to go longer than my inferno and have have a more snappy backend, any thoughts on that? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Mike
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strikealot · « **Reply #1 on:** April 29, 2006, 01:38:07 PM »

it is a strong ball, not for heavy but can be used on heavy-med....just picked up a second...dont know how it compares to inf..but mine is a little earlier than my one with close to same backend on ths....
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charlest · « **Reply #2 on:** April 29, 2006, 02:01:51 PM »

Being a resin pearl with a very low RG differential, it is probably one of the 4 or 5 best balls ever designed for medium to medium-light oil patterns. It used to be for mediums but for today's oil, medium-light is its forte.

Unless your PAP has a high positive (1" or more above the midline), or you are a full roller or you have 500+ rev rate, I would NOT put the pin above the fingers. You'd be killing a great ball.
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J_Mac · « **Reply #3 on:** April 29, 2006, 02:53:58 PM »

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Being a resin pearl with a very low RG differential, it is probably one of the 4 or 5 best balls ever designed for medium to medium-light oil patterns. It used to be for mediums but for today's oil, medium-light is its forte.

Unless your PAP has a high positive (1" or more above the midline), or you are a full roller or you have 500+ rev rate, I would NOT put the pin above the fingers. You'd be killing a great ball.
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Is it low RG or low differential?

My FQ lopes down the lanes a lot more than my Absolute Inferno does. It is one of the remakes, but those weren't supposed to be any different than the originals.

FQ - has almost 5/8 oz. positive weight http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIyNzk3NDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

AI - This picture it before I took the PW from 7/8 oz. to 1/4 oz. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIyNzk2NDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

I like my FQ when my AI or BCB stops kicking out the corners.
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:22:54 PM »

Lowest Rg is 2.50. Rg diff is .032". This is for 16 lb. 15 lb specs were never published.
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J_Mac · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:39:26 PM »

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Lowest Rg is 2.50. Rg diff is .032". This is for 16 lb. 15 lb specs were never published.
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Hmm... other than the differential that really isn't that far off from an AI. Though the number that Brunswick uses to indicate core/cover heaviness, ie RG, for the AI is 2.6 and it's 3.2 for the FQ.
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a_ak57 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:44:52 PM »

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Lowest Rg is 2.50. Rg diff is .032". This is for 16 lb. 15 lb specs were never published.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Hmm... other than the differential that really isn't that far off from an AI. Though the number that Brunswick uses to indicate core/cover heaviness, ie RG, for the AI is 2.6 and it's 3.2 for the FQ.
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Well, the abby's low RG value is 2.46 with it's high RG value being 2.51 so that's why there is the difference in the scale numbers (2.6 vs 3.2).
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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** April 29, 2006, 05:28:16 PM »

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Lowest Rg is 2.50. Rg diff is .032". This is for 16 lb. 15 lb specs were never published.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Hmm... other than the differential that really isn't that far off from an AI. Though the number that Brunswick uses to indicate core/cover heaviness, ie RG, for the AI is 2.6 and it's 3.2 for the FQ.
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But it's also a Quantum mushroom core, very much like that in the Bruiser and the SlayR. The ball is VERY far from an Absolute Inferno, VERY FAR.
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charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** April 29, 2006, 06:55:46 PM »

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I have mine 4 x 4 1/2 with the pin above the ring finger with no weight hole.

The ball gets tremendous length with a late mid lane read and a hugh back end reaction.

Medium oil. works great..

How is that killing a ball?

re-read, please.
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charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2006, 08:03:32 AM »

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How is that killing a ball?

re-read, please.

More than likely, I'm not understanding what your meaning is about "killing the ball". Not questioning your opinion, just don't understand it.
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Sorry, I thought otherwise. What I mean is that when you put the pin above the ring finger, unless your PAP requires that or you have a very high rev rate or a very low tilt (high track), reduces the amount of oil on which you can use the ball, increase the length and makes the hook transition much more flippy and hard to control. Usually, for most people, it makes the ball suitable for a 1/2 to a full notch less oil. So, for a ball like this, it will make it more suitable for light to medium-light oil, rather than medium-light to medium oil.

Keep in mind all the usual IFs, ANDs or BUTs: worn oil surfaces, unusual oil patterns, lower ball speed in proportion to rev rate (or higher ball speed) call all create exceptions to the rule. Plus our perception of what is medium or dry or heavy oil, all affect how we view a ball's capabilities.
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charlest · « **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2006, 08:05:04 AM »

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I have mine pin over Ring no hole. One of the greatest balls i've ever owned, I love balls that rev up extremely quick but are still clean threw the fronts and mids.

I'm also a little confused what you meant by "killing the ball"
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By that I meant - Reducing its effectiveness on the oil pattern for which it is, in general, for most bowlers, the most effective.
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