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BrunsBob

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If you ever.....................
« on: July 26, 2006, 04:19:17 PM »
.....wonder why you don't see more responses on here from us Brunswick guys, people like Booling Eh would be the reason.

  BTW, it's been way too long since I've truly thanked the real Brunswick Nation members for their support of Brunswick. If you don't think you matter......think again. We LUV YA !!!  You keep us on our toes in an effort to continue to please and amaze you with our latest offerings. We'll keep working hard so you can succeed on the lanes.

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BrunsBob

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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2006, 08:35:17 PM »
Wow!!!! I've never seen someone so obsessed. It's a friggin bowling ball dude. As for them having the same reaction......MAYBE! :-)

It is not normally our policy to discuss business practices publicly on these forums. We have indeed answered any questions asked to us in person by shops and bowlers.

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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2006, 08:41:46 PM »
Booling Eh I have one question for you. Do you think Brunswick is the only company that has ever done this with any of their equipment? If you answer yes you truly are stupid. Almost every other company has done this at one point in time. So why not be against all companies then? If you work in a pro shop you have the ability to see the specs on any equipment. Two balls coming from the same company with the same weight block and cover stock with the same #'s would it not make sense that the reaction is going to be the same or very close? Stop and use your head. I hope to god I never walk into your pro shop and get you to help me.
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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2006, 08:48:42 PM »
My god.  It's like watching a train wreck happen in slow motion.
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2006, 09:01:44 PM »
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My god. It's like watching a train wreck happen in slow motion.
 


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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2006, 01:05:44 AM »
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Wow!!!! I've never seen someone so obsessed. It's a friggin bowling ball dude. As for them having the same reaction......MAYBE! :-)

It is not normally our policy to discuss business practices publicly on these forums. We have indeed answered any questions asked to us in person by shops and bowlers.

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I hate to say this bud but your still dancing around the question.  You say MAYBE the reaction is the same?  Come on now you sound like your not wanting to admitt that it is.  Maybe, is a cop out answer.

I want to ask this question myself.  Why dance around this guys question?  Why not just tell him the reaction will be the same because it's the same ball.  By not answering this just proves that Brunswick is trying to hide the fact that it's the same ball.  If the ball is great just re release it like the other ball company's do.  Go ahead and change the color as well.  That's cool.  There is nothing wrong with a re release.  What's worng is trying to pass it off as a totally different ball and reaction.

By you staffers dancing around this guys question just shows that Brunswick must not want this ball to be considered a re-release.

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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2006, 02:14:25 AM »
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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2006, 02:26:08 AM »
I'd be glad to test out the four balls, I'd just need to get my hands on a few for the videos. Finding a 15# Nemesis might be a little tough...

Thank you Rick for posting, its always great to see you on here!
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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2006, 02:40:14 AM »
Hey if Brunswick wants to hire me as the Tour Media man, I'm all for it! You can have all the camera time you want, you HAM!!
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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2006, 03:14:04 AM »
Speaking of texting Billy, I think I'll do just that while I'm on the road to Arizona!  I'll tell him it was all your idea... woo hoo!

Little Larry... OMG, the day DAMIEN makes a post here is the day I run for the f'n hills!
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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2006, 08:53:41 AM »
chitown,

  "Maybe" was meant to be a joke. We have never "danced" around the question. If we were to be asked in a mature way and not attacked you might find that we are more than willing to talk about any balls reaction. I have said in past posts weeks ago that the balls were meant to be similar and that color change might be the slight difference.

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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2006, 07:55:34 PM »
Your not a kid? I'd have figured your 13....
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2006, 10:09:09 PM »
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Little Larry... OMG, the day DAMIEN makes a post here is the day I run for the f'n hills!
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what would it be nick, BrunsDAMIEN ?
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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2006, 02:09:33 PM »
Replying to BrunsBob's original statement:

I would like to thank ALL the people at Brunswick, the salespeople (gotta be "PC" you know) who post here regularly like BrunsBob and BrunsRicH, the R&D Dept for creating the best cores/coverstocks in the business, guys like BrunsNick for being very helpful and knowledgable on B products and making videos to show the ball reactions (wether it is a house shot or not which is what 90% of us bowl on everyday anyways!), to all pro shop owners/operators on here who specialize in Brunswick products. I have learned a HUGE amount in the last year and a half about bowling and brunswick products in general by reading posts on here and experimenting in the shop with my own equipment. When customers come into our pro shop and ask for a ball, I get a bit of info from them (line they play, amount of speed/hand they have, and what kind of reaction they are looking for) I show them what is in the B line first and generally they like the recommendation and get a Brunswick ball. Since I have thrown a good bit of the Brunswick balls in the timeframe plus seen other styles use various B balls (low rev, cranker, same ball with different surfaces) it gives me more knowledge of the products and can better know what I want for my game as well as others. So for that I thank everyone at Brunswick.

Since this whole thing seemed to start as the Wizard and Nemesis are the same ball and the Red Zone is a shiny Strike Zone, here is my opinion (with Laner humor inserted in most statements):

Wizard and Nemesis are not the same ball, they have different colors and the Wizard has glow engraving. Also, I have heard that different color pigmentation can vary reaction (not an expert but I am sure somebody can clear this up). Blue/Black with Orange engravings may be more cosmetically better to some than the Orange/Black combo with white/yellow engravings. If you liked the Nemesis and want another, drill a Wizard slightly different to get a another look/reaction.

Red Zone and Strike Zone are also not the same ball. One is shiny and Red, the other is dull and Blue. Switch the surface and again the color difference may play a role (again not an expert). I have a Red Zone with about 5 games on it so far and I can say it is very similar to my Classic Zone, just a tad earlier and not as violent (same drilling as my Classic except the pin is closer to my grip on the Red). I have not tried it at 800 grit to compare to a Strike Zone, but for me, there is not enough oil around to need to do that. Scott drilled a Red and dulled it down and said the Strike Zone with a similar drilling was more aggressive dull the a Red.

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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2006, 02:32:24 PM »
Didn't ebonite re-release the stinger low-flare as one of the ices?  Why ain't this guy on a crusade to ruin ebonite too?
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Re: If you ever.....................
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2006, 02:55:26 PM »
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Didn't ebonite re-release the stinger low-flare as one of the ices?  Why ain't this guy on a crusade to ruin ebonite too?
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Because it was a different coverstock if I recall.
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