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Pahataun

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Something for the dry/played lanes?
« on: June 23, 2007, 12:51:24 AM »
I recently played at a local tournament where in the finals the lane got so dry that my factory finished smoking got too strong and i needed something that would slide further, but my radical inferno didn't have any hitting power... i have been thinking about bvp rampage for a long time, does anyone have any other suggestions for me? i have about 23-25km/h ball speed and maybe 300rpm...
i have smokin inferno, radical inferno, vapour zone, elite blue alien, action max, lanemasters kong, power groove reactive, bvp goliath,
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John D Davis

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2007, 09:04:13 AM »
Rampage is going to react probably just like the smoking... If they were that dry than why not use plastic??? Does the word plastic scare you? I say that because the smoking was designed for medium to dry lanes. Sure you can get something a little weaker but why fight it? Just throw plastic......
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2007, 09:16:29 AM »
Well, although this is the Brunswick forum... If you are not opposed to RotoGrip, I would suggest the Mercury. Great ball for the toasty stuff.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2007, 10:04:10 AM »
Power Groove Dry/R. Good dry lane ball. The Power Groove Blue Sanded Urethane is a great dry lane spare ball for me.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2007, 10:05:59 AM »
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I recently played at a local tournament where in the finals the lane got so dry that my factory finished smoking got too strong and i needed something that would slide further, but my radical inferno didn't have any hitting power... i have been thinking about bvp rampage for a long time, does anyone have any other suggestions for me? i have about 23-25km/h ball speed and maybe 300rpm...
i have smokin inferno, radical inferno, vapour zone, elite blue alien, action max, lanemasters kong, power groove reactive, bvp goliath,


Did you try the Power Groove reactive (I assume it's the pearl)?
That is the Brunswick ball with the greatest length other than plastic. It is certainly much weaker then the Rampage or any Inferno. (The PG Dry/R will have less backend than the regular PG pearl, but backend did not seem to be your problem.)
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2007, 10:08:22 AM »
If your looking for a true dry lane ball I would suggest a Power Groove Dry/R.
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John D Davis

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2007, 10:11:37 AM »
I will never understand why people dont like to throw plastic...Throwing plastic can be such a wonderful thing when the lanes are burned. Just stay square and dont miss right... Everything else is in the pocket!
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Jesse James

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2007, 10:46:25 AM »
You're right plastic is great, and it will probably get to the pocket easily.
However, as I have seen carry is the biggest concern.

I just bowled this past Thursday on a torched pair, and watched a lefty throw plastic and get to the pocket easily, but he could not carry consistently!

You must really be accurate, AND consistent with your speed in order to carry on chopped up lanes, otherwise you'd better have some flying backends in order to get the carry necessary to score well.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2007, 11:15:48 AM »
Try the Power Groove Dry/R, or, if you can get your hands on one, try the BVP Punisher. Same core as the Rampage, but with a coverstock that will not grap the friction quite so much.

The only problem I see with plastic is that with todays conditions, when we talk about dry lanes, it is usually the front portion of the lane that goes. Once oil travels down the lane, plastic really isn't the answer. That is exactly why you don't see more people do it. It is always an option, but IF you can still get a look with resin you will always benefit from the carry factor.

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John D Davis

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2007, 11:29:27 AM »
Bruns you are wrong about what u said.....
Yes players do run into lane conditions where the front part of the lane is dry and the backend still has a little oil or carrydown should I say. There is no reason why any player cant throw a plastic ball and be effective on these conditions. The only conditions that may not work is when u have carrydown and alot of head oil.... But then who needs it anyway?

Playing with plastic takes much plastic but if you have burned heads like you are talking about then you should be able to get the plastic to read the lane early and give you the most predictable backend of anything. When playing these conditions the backend becomes out of play anyway. Sure you may not be able to belly it like a hook monster but there is no reason plastic should not be giving a chance!

Does anyone see my point here? People put plastic in their hand and then they think........... oh hell this thing wont hook much so they end up throwing kinda sloppy. Practice day in and day out on tough conditions with a plastic and when u see yourself throwing the plastic as pure as the reactive then come and tell me that it wont work.... Because I know from experience that it will work!

I just wished more people where open minded about the conditions and the ways they can play the lanes....John
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2007, 11:36:06 AM »
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I will never understand why people dont like to throw plastic...Throwing plastic can be such a wonderful thing when the lanes are burned. Just stay square and dont miss right... Everything else is in the pocket!


I have no problem throwing plastic if need be, but why throw plastic when the Groove Dry/R gives me a similar look on the front part of the lane but has the little extra on the back part of the lane that helps get those corner pins out.
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John D Davis

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2007, 11:59:23 AM »
I was only making a point.... when throwing a plastic ball "PURE" it carries just as good as any other ball but without the chances of throwing it not so pure and leaving a split. Not saying plastic is the way to go always, just saying people dont give it enough credit is all......thx for the opinions, John
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2007, 12:53:32 PM »
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I was only making a point.... when throwing a plastic ball "PURE" it carries just as good as any other ball but without the chances of throwing it not so pure and leaving a split. Not saying plastic is the way to go always, just saying people dont give it enough credit is all......thx for the opinions, John


I understand what your saying, a few years ago I would use plastic on the second shift if they were burnt. I've seen some high games with plastic, by myself and others. When I set the house/city record for youth game in the early 90's I rolled plastic. Its just now that I have the Dry/R there really is no need to use plastic for anything besides spares.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2007, 03:34:59 PM »
when you're at a tournament and you run into trouble your plastic ball can be a lifesaver. but in the future if you're looking for a drier lanes ball try a power groove dry/r. also, if you can find a monster slay/r this may work.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2007, 04:25:51 PM »
I'm not understanding something -

Why is everyone insisting he use a Dry/R or a plastic ball, when he never even attempted to try the Power Groove Reactive (probably the pearl), which is MUCH milder than the Rampage or ANY Inferno???

Why? Why? Why?????

Nobody knows how dry it really was if all he tried was a Smoking Inf. and  Radical Inf.
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