On 11/27, I was contacted by this user and a price was agreed to on a 6-Ball bowling bag. He said he needed my information to send the money order since he didn't have a PayPal account. I provided him this information on 11/28 and he said he would get the MO right out. Being as how this user had no previous history that I could find and had only been omn this site sincwe 10/06, I pm'd him the next day, 11/29, just to ask if the MO had gone out as he said it had, He pm'd me back and I quote:

"I haven't forgot about you and I know I read your email but I had other stuff on my mind, I have a very demanding job, but to answer your question yes I will send you the money order tomorrow"

OK, so I assume it is going out right? I had asked him to let me know when the MO went out and I had heard nothing. I let it go until 12/4 when I had received no MO so again I message him and I get this reply:

"Sorry life got a little hectic It'll go out today"

Obviously feeling strung along by a new and suspicious user, I replied with a half-hearted reply saying simply:

"grrrrrrrrrr"

I receive this reply from him:

"I really hope your joking because I really don't need this bag."

OK, feeling frustrated from this users messages and failure to uphold his end of the deal, I replied:

"Look. You have told me time and time again that you have sent or will send the money immediately. I refuse to be strung along. You can check my profile and this site for my reputation as I never do business that way. If you don't need or want the bag, fine. All you had to do was say so and call the deal off. I would have posted the transaction history inthe feddback forum and that would have been the end of it. Don't expect me to to feel like you are doing me a favor because transactions are done because both parties are gaining something. I do not kid when it comes to transactions. I have been on this and other sites for years and have never had a bad transaction from my end. You have been in here for right at 2 months and have 6 posts, How am I suppose to trust someone with no history and continues to feed me more stories about things that come up? You do what you want. If we complete the transaction, fine. If not, I will do as I would before and post the information in the forums. I am profiting all of $20 so you tell me if the hassle woukd be worth it if you were on my end? Let me know either way."

To which he replied:

"Then let's just call it off and just because I've only been on here a couple of months doesn't mean I don't have a positive history. I have done a number of deals on this site since then and never had a problem. I'm sorry that my problems have caused you an inconvenience, but if you can't have a little patience then so be it."


Now, I firmly have no belief that this user had any intention of purchasing this bag. I do not know this user and thank goodness I have lost nothing from this deal. I think a week is more than enough time to send out a money order if you say it will go out IMMEDIATELY!!  Bottom line is as a longtime member/user on this site and others, everyone should know to be careful when dealing with this cat!!! Thanks and have a nice day.....
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Godfather of the Lane #1 Mafia
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As long as he is sending the money first, I wouldn't get too upset about it.
In the future for you though I would suggest stating a time limit that they have to get the money to you before the item goes back up.  Figure 2 weeks, a week to get paid, and a week for the mail.

Depends on where you are sending it from it may take a week for the MO to get to you if it goes in the mail that day.  Like I also stated if the person is waiting on payday.

I would just have a little patience with the new guys.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
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http://www.visionarybowling.com
http://www.maysbowlingandbilliards.com

I don't think it is asking too much for someone to be up front and say "I am going to pay on payday" or something like that. I have helped people on many occasions here and on BBE.com. I have even told some people just pay me when you can and sent them the balls if I have dealt with them in the past or they have a good history. The thing about this user was not doing as he said. I fI say I am sedning money/ball at a certain time, I either do it or contact them immediately to let them know why and it has always gotten out the next day. New guys should work even harder to become good members with good reputations on this site. Granted, like I said, I didn't lose anything except for I passed on an offer because of his promises to pay and when I contacted the other user, he had already gotten a bag since I told him this one was pending payment. Either way, I am not sure you would like to be strung along either Eric.
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Godfather of the Lane #1 Mafia
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But he did tell you that he had something come up.

I would not be so pressed over sell a bag that I couldn't
wait 3 weeks instead of 1 to sell it, and I have sold quite a bit of stuff.
I have had people back out on deals, so be it, just remember as long as they are sending you the money first it doesn't matter.  Now if someone else is looking at it, I would inform them of such.

But I can see where you are comming from.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
 Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
http://www.maysbowlingandbilliards.com