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Bjaardker

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Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« on: September 04, 2003, 07:54:18 AM »
SO, after 3 days of comunications with him & a deal that was confirmed twice, he pulls out of the deal 12 hours before shipment. I had 2 other deals in the works, but told them I couldn't do it since I was dealing with Rudy. They both since have found other deals. I will list the communications & you be the judge, but I just wanted to let everyone know, he's the kind of young guy that can by iffy trading with.

First message:
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From:  Rudy REVS Jr        
Received:  9/2/2003 9:51:47 PM
Subject:  Want to trade for Igniter
Message:  I have a silver diamond with the pin right above the ring finger 15# nib. will trade for free except for shipping. If u pay shipping i will gladly trade for u


I followed up with:

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I'm very intrested, just wondering, if it's NIB, how can the pin be above the ring finger?

I can also give you any other info on the igniter you might want.

BJ


At this point I was cautious, but was going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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MY fault. I thought NIB meant the condition the ball was in. sorry

i would still like to trade though


We agreed to trade & that I would pay him back for shipping since I was getting a little "better end of the deal" & the $$ should offset it.I then asked if he accepted Paypal & he responded:

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Sorry i do not accept paypal. i will accept a check though. not sure about the span but the pin is 2.5in. and it has about 15 games on it. I have a medium size hand so we should match up ok. I live in Tupelo, MS.


I then sent him this PM to try & "close" the deal.

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So would it be ok to do a swap then?

I'll send you my igniter & a money order or check for the cost of shipping, at the same time that you send the silver diamond?

You would have to front the $$ for the shipping, but I would be sure to send enough along with my ball to cover it.

I've found that's usually the safest way to do ball trades on here, to both send at the same time & make sure you get each other the tracking numbers on the same day. That way if one doesn't send a tracking number in a day or so, you can put the shipment on hold.

Let me know if you think that would work & we can swap addresses & plan on shipping tomorrow or friday.


At this point he sent me a message saying he now was wondering if I could include a little more $$ for redrilling & such. Here was my response:

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I dont have enough money for that. That's why I wanted to trade with someone. As it is I'm going to be paying at least $15 for shipping the igniter to you & another $15 to cover your shipping. The max I can make out a check to you for is $25.00. That's about $10.00 more than what shipping should cost.

I'm sorry, That's all I've got.


He responded it was OK.

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That is fine i think we will try to ship on friday or saturday .
How do we exchange the tracking numbers and how do we put shipments on hold


I responded with my address & that I would ship on Friday during lunch & also some more info on shipping with UPS & NOT using USPS.

Here's his edited response:
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I go to school during the day so i will be able to ship it after i get out of schoool friday.

My email addy is south_65@msn.com
my phone number is 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx
Ship to this addy
xxxx Redland Sarepta Rd
Houlka Ms, 38850


I then got a message asking this:

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Is the ball already drilled???
did u use it for dry lanes or for oily
does the ball have any scratches or nicks on the coverstock
also how many games does it have on it????


Mind you, all of this info was in the original trade thread, but I responded anyway.
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The ball has only beee drilled once. Span & such were listed in the thread on the forum. It has finger grips & thumb slug. Drilled pin over bridge & just right of center line. CG kicked right about 45 degrees. Commonly known as a 10:30 drilling.

Used it for Medium conditions with good backends, that's where it really excelled.

Very few small scratches, nothing more than expected for 30 games & nothing that wont come out with a light resurfacing. I would actually reccommend a little bit of polish to bring the shine back.

Only 30 games on it.

If you're having second thoughts about trading please let me know now. I'm planning on shipping tomorrow.


He Responded:

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No i am still goin to ship tomorrow.


Then tonight I get this:
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I HAVE DECIDED TO KEEP MY SILVER DIAMOND. MY DAD WANTS ME TOO KEEP IT SO I GUESS I WILL. I AM SORRY FOR THE INCONVIENCE.



Moral of the story, people can really jerk you around. Deal with him with caution.

Oh, and I still have that igniter available if anyone is intrested.

Edited on 9/4/2003 11:03 PM
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2003, 05:30:31 PM »
TyLytle, yeah, I noticed that too.  
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2003, 05:49:44 PM »
King,  go back and read your 5:22pm post.  Then, read it again with a jaded mind.    Hint: be careful with initials.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2003, 07:23:45 PM »
Lol, I can't even think of what he REALLY means!  Brazen junkie?  Big John?  Boring jerk?
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2003, 10:13:05 AM »
Any thing on this? I seen he is posting on the Lane 1 page.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2003, 10:37:40 AM »
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Any thing on this? I seen he is posting on the Lane 1 page.

He backed out of the deal, nothing was shipped, so no one owes anyone anything.  Bjaardker's post is just a tip to avoid dealing with this guy, or with anyone else who needs his father's permission to close the deal.

There are a couple of younguns on this site I would probably deal with, but in general, dealing with kids is too risky, especially when you can get good deals from reputable traders like yourself.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2003, 11:56:05 AM »
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Isn't this pretty much the same as saying, "I wont trade with XX user b/c he is black?"

Yeah, it is.

Ummm... no, it's not.  Shame on you.
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2003, 12:55:53 PM »
Please don't try to tar me with pc phrases like "it's a label".  It's not a label, it's just a little common sense.

Maybe you'd like to trade with 15 year-olds, or maybe 10 year-olds.  How about 5 year-olds?  Be careful not to label anyone.

Anyone who has to ask his father's permission to sell something should not be making promises, because he's not sure he can keep up his side of the deal.  That doesn't hold true for most 25 year-olds I know.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2003, 02:58:46 PM »
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Common Sense? So you are stating that trading a bowling ball with someone who is say ... "20" is ludicrous b/c they are under 25, and you don't see that as discriminatory. Marking folks under 25 is putting them into a category. I guess this conversation is over. Call it what u want, but if you wanna play semantics with me, lets go.


No thanks, Leftside, no desire here to "play semantics" (whatever that means).

First of all, you, not I, came up with "25 or under".  I said "kids"; I never defined a lower age limit.  "Kid" can refer to someone who doesn't have many years on the planet, or to someone who simply acts that way.  If you're under 18, I'd say you're a kid.  There I go, labeling people again!

Secondly, yes, common sense.  Common sense tells you to be wary of dealing with someone who, without evidence to the contrary, you may assume has a dearth of experience in dealings that require commitment and the ability to follow through.  Since we typically become more responsible as we pass from childhood into adulthood, it is common sense to be wary when entering into a financial transaction with a child.  Why does this offend you so?

By the way he presents himself here, King has provided positive evidence to counter the intuitive belief that, at the age of 13, he's not old enough to be trusted to hold up his end of a small financial transaction.  I would therefore be happy to deal with him.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2003, 08:32:41 PM »
King at 13, is way more knowledgeable and mature than a lot of adults on this Ball Reviews site, as well as also having more common sense than they do.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2003, 08:25:29 PM »
It is not labeling Brian it is common sense.  Did you have more money in your pocket to spend when you were 16 or now that you are over 25.  I would not say somebody is bad cause they are young.  I would say that the younger people usually have less money and it is harder to hold them accountable for deals gone bad.  For me personally there are young people I would deal with, but it is about cya.
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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2003, 09:24:38 PM »
 Here is the main reason i did not trade with bjaadker.

I talked to the guy in my pro shop (Rudy REVS Kasimakis) and he told me not to do it because i was gettin ripped off.

Plus i just got the ball and my dad was on my case so there ya go
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Bjaardker

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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2003, 11:58:18 PM »
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 Here is the main reason i did not trade with bjaadker.

I talked to the guy in my pro shop (Rudy REVS Kasimakis) and he told me not to do it because i was gettin ripped off.

Plus i just got the ball and my dad was on my case so there ya go


You were the one that approached ME about the trade.

You were getting a top notch ball in great condition, plus cash on top of it, & money to cover shipping.

If you were so worried about it, then you shouldn't have confirmed the deal TWICE.

I've said nothing bad about you to this point. Simply stated the facts. Buyers can make their own decisions about dealing with you at this point.
As an aside, when you grow up, you will learn that namedropping will earn you no extra respect in life.

Edited on 9/23/2003 0:08 AM
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2003, 09:14:49 AM »
what show is that? COPS?


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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2003, 10:58:40 AM »
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what show is that? COPS?


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Re: Rudy REVS Jr. = proceed with caution
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2003, 11:26:47 AM »
Bjaardker: Giving the kid the benefit of the doubt, the father may have nixed the deal believing it was a bad trade for his son. You always take that kind of risk when dealing with kids.

If I can make a suggestion (and please don't take this the wrong way), get a part time job in the evening if you're really that cash strapped. That way you can buy new equipment from reliable sources and avoid all this hassle you (and many others) are going through. When you've been reduced to dealing with children who chew bubble gum and play tag for recreation, you're close to hitting bottom.

If you resist the concept of generating more income, at least consider dealing with a reputable adult like pchee2. The man does a lot of trading/selling (at least he used to), and he's fair and reliable.
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