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the_todd

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Comparable replacement?
« on: January 13, 2016, 12:43:05 PM »
I'm not a very hard core bowler.  Typically when I buy a ball, unless I dont like it, I tend to hold on to it for 5-10 years.  I had to mention that hoping to avoid being laughed at when I say what I'm looking to replace. 

I'm looking for a ball with a similar play/roll to my NoiZe.  I was recently asked to join a friend's team, after being out of leagues for about 6 years due to working during league nights/times, needless to say my ball didn't exactly respond well to being thrown after sitting unused for so long (cracked during game 2 of my first series)..  I was always happy with the way the NoiZe plays, it fits my throwing style perfectly, I love the huge back end movement, and punch so I'm looking for something with a similar performance.

So far the only balls I've found that seems to have a similar roll pattern (based on watching videos) are the Hammer  BW Assassin, or the BW Legend, and the C300 Mad Antics (I prefer keeping my ball OOB, with the Mad Antics I may have to do some sanding)

I've always liked a more aggressive cover stock and asymmetrical cores.  I'm not a big fan of glossy polished finishes but I'm not THAT picky.  Also it may be worth noting that I have problems with my shoulder and can't throw a 16 lb ball for more than one game a night. I can throw 14 all night without too much pain, and I think I could handle 15 if it means getting a ball that wont require changing my throwing style, or adding a lot more speed.  I'm not a slow roller but if I would go to 15 I would have to slow down due to my physical limitations. 

My typical conditions range from light-heavy, I'm covered for dry-light conditions, so I'm looking for a ball to cover medium-heavy oil.

Like I said, I've been out of the game for a while, I did a lot of research and comparisons back in 08 when I bought my noiZe, but all of the other balls I had looked at have been discontinued so I'm back to square 1.  Ball technology seems to have changed quite a bit since then, and C300 doesn't appear to use any of the components that were used on the noiZe, and with all the new developments since then I feel totally lost.  Especially since most of the websites I used back then don't have the same comparison "tools" I used to make my decision.

Any Help,suggestions,recommendations will be greatly appreciated.  It looks like I'm finally getting back in the game for the long run, now that my work schedule will allow it, so I would really like to find something.  As far as my price range goes I'd like to stick between 100-150 but my absolute limit is 200.  I'd like to stick with C300 or Hammer (the brands I've had the most luck with) but I'm open to trying others if they are good quality and the right performance.

 

bowlingman817

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 02:54:14 PM »
Try a Raw Urge from C300, it seems to be there hottest ball out right now and may fit perfectly to what your looking for. On the Hammer side I would say a Bad Intentions Hybrid, I picked one up a couple weeks ago and it is strong but still finishes very hard. Hope this helps.

Dave81644

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 10:02:00 PM »
The raw Urge is a decent choice, also take a look at the Ebonite Warrior and maybe the best choice would be the Track Legion

i would go Legion, raw urge and then Warrior
balls today are far different than when that piece came out like you mentioned
Another good piece that is brand new is the Columbia Swerve FX
it has some new outer core technology that makes it better through the pins
I got to throw most of these a few days ago at a seminar/demo days
the swerve has more length and move on the back end where as the legion is strong and more arcing

the_todd

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 01:39:26 PM »
Thanks for all the advice !  JKirkerx you are right the noize had the TI Boss core, I always think symmetrical refers to the top vs bottom of the core, the boss was bigger at the top so I thought it was asymmetrical, that's just my lack of knowledge talking  :-[

Anyway so far I'm narrowed down to the Raw Urge, Swerve FX, the legion and bad intentions hybrid (although I'm still shaky on the carbon fiber). And the BW Assassin ...

I'll let you all know what I end up getting, next weekend !

Dave81644

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 03:23:03 PM »
the carbon fiber is where the technology is heading. Don't be afraid.
 of that at all.
I dont have the Raw Urge, but do have the other 3 you mention
i have all 3 as different shapes/motions.
I would bring all 3 with me to a tournament depending on pattern


the_todd

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2016, 01:30:23 PM »
The verdict is in, and after discussing everything with a local pro shop owner/highly experienced driller.  Taking the typical lane conditions at the locations I bowl most often, I've decided to go with the Swerve.  He's ordering it this afternoon, he's gonna measure me up later in the week when I drop my noize off to be fixed and I should have both balls ready for action by the beginning of next week! 


Again thanks for all the help and advice, I'm actually thinking I might end up buying one of the other balls recommended here, to add coverage for a wider range of conditions.  Being back in leagues again I've been informed by my team that two of the places we will go for tournaments in the spring are very inconsistent with their oil patterns so everyone shows up with 3-4 balls

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Re: Comparable replacement?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2016, 03:21:22 PM »
Love the Noize line, anyway aces80 have a Swerve for sale with only 6 games, look in the for sale section, u can't beat the price. I also have a Wicked Encounter for sale, great ball was only able to use for 5 frames, it's too heavy. But it can handle just about any condition and take surface changes well. I tend to like the older Columbia stuff. And there's a used Loud Noize for sale on ebay
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