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Hellbound

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Smoothing out reaction...
« on: May 06, 2008, 09:18:37 AM »
Have my Hammer Doom at 600 grit , polished with Ebonite Factory Finish.
Still jumping too hard on the backend, was wondering what the best option is to smooth it out a bit.
Want to get good length with controllable arc on the back.
My first thoughts were a good dose of Extender polish, or maybe 2000 abralon, no polish, but open to any suggestions.

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 05:23:22 PM »
Move it to unpolished 4000 grit. I have done this to a couple of balls. It works great. It will get the ball down the lane but then you will get a nice strong arc instead of s flip.
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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 06:31:52 PM »
Will there be much difference between 2000 and 4000?
I only have 2000 now...
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charlest

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 06:35:22 PM »
quote:
Will there be much difference between 2000 and 4000?
I only have 2000 now...
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Depends on the ball, but there should be a difference. It depends on the ball and the bowler.
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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 07:02:18 PM »
How about using a fairly used 2000 Ablaron pad?


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charlest

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 07:30:05 PM »
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How about using a fairly used 2000 Ablaron pad?
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The problem with that concept is that the result is basically UNKNOWN.
It's not like you're guaranteed that every used 2000 grit pad automatically becomes 4000 grit. Life just don't work that way.

See and you thought it was easy.
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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 02:27:00 AM »
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The problem with that concept is that the result is basically UNKNOWN.
It's not like you're guaranteed that every used 2000 grit pad automatically becomes 4000 grit. Life just don't work that way.

So what do we do Charlest, use them once than throw them away?  I've heard of tracking rach use of the abralon pads but thats alot.  Is there a limit of how high of a grit value one  pad can reach? example- can a 360 pad eventually reach 4000? how many mins of use at what rpm?

I forgot, how much psi

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charlest

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 09:32:43 AM »
There's worn and then there's WORN.

Use the 2000 pad until you feel you shouldn't. I'm not telling you to throw them away.

when he suggested using a worn 2000 grit pad, I assumed he meant a very, overly used 2000 grit pad.

Everything's relative.

Unless you have a gauge that can read the grit level on the pad, you'll have to use your experience and your common sense.

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 06:24:54 AM »
Ok i will try it. Use the 2000 Pad for the Doom for there was not that much difference in my way to bowl. The main difference till now  was to ad polish or not, both 4000 2000 even 1000 become very flippy with polish. 1000 was for me almost unpredictable on a THS.

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 06:27:51 AM »
Ups sorry my bad english
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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 08:41:33 AM »
Leonidas, Thanks.

Regarding: "The main difference till now was to ad polish or not, both 4000 2000 even 1000 become very flippy with polish. 1000 was for me almost unpredictable on a THS."

Be careful with polish if you have your own spinner, but more so, if someone else does it for you. The amount of shine you put on a ball AND the type of polish can make a HUGE difference.

TYPE: there are non-abrasive polishes that won't change the underlying grit level and there are abrasive ones that will change it. However more depends on how hard you press for how long and how much polish you apply.

Options:
1. If 1000 through 4000 grit PLUS polish are still giving you too much over/under, try 4000 grit with NO polish, often called "matte".

2. If 4000 matte is too early, try 1000 grit plus A VERY LIGHT AMOUNT OF POLISH. If possible apply it by hand to get the minmum amount of shine and just the right amount of length. If you need more length, try another HAND APPLICATION of polish. If you need still more, try a spinner still using the least bit of polish and pressure that will get you more length.

3. If 4000 matte is too long, try 2000 grit matter (no polish).

The whole object is to take as small a step necessary, so as NOT to pass the stage at which you need the ball. PLUS it must be tested at least twice to insure it is where you need it to be.

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Re: Smoothing out reaction...
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 08:52:33 AM »
Not particularly related, but use the abralon pads until they are worn, then flip them over and use the soft red side to apply polish.  Once that side is worn, THEN throw them away...

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