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Title: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 04, 2021, 02:37:42 PM
I first saw this on my hustle ink. i thought that was just some wear but I noticed them again on my money badger tour and it has less than 10 games on it.  There are two white lines that go around the ball and it appears to be where my track is. My Iq tour has some lines on it as well but not as prominent as the money badger tour.

What could be causing that?

edit:  Images added

https://i.imgur.com/KmQCDM9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NvhhEuP.jpg
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: noslouch on July 04, 2021, 08:59:09 PM
It's just plasticizer reacting with oil from the friction. It doesn't happen very often since the balls are baked during production to lessen the chance for excess plasticizer leaching out of balls. It won't hurt your ball or track area. If anything it helps to keep oil out of your track.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 04, 2021, 10:10:17 PM
Itís good to know itís not hurting the performance of the ball.  The white lines on a black ball strange to see.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: bradl on July 04, 2021, 11:25:58 PM
Itís good to know itís not hurting the performance of the ball.  The white lines on a black ball strange to see.

Actually, that can be a very good thing, as it will be a good indication of when you should resurface your ball. I had something similar happen some 30 years ago with my Ebonite Turbo/X, and thought something was wrong with the ball. Instead, not only did it show me where my track area was, but showed how much I have used the ball (at the time, I preferred using it over the NuLine X-Calibur I had in the same bag with the same drill.

Once I saw that at the tournament I was at, immediately after getting home I took that ball to the shop for a resurface, as I had a pretty worn out track area.

BL.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 04, 2021, 11:33:08 PM
Hereís the confusion.  I have less than 10 games on my money badger tour and the lines began forming. Now, I have to admit I changed the surface twice and the lines formed after using it after the adding polish to it.


Edit-changes the surface to 3k and then 2k with polish using a jost pad and a sia air pad.  Polish was from motiv.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: noslouch on July 05, 2021, 12:03:07 AM
It's just called phazing. When heat is introduced to resin of any ball manufacturer including black reactive resin balls there will be a color change to dark purple with white streaks around the entire surface of all bowling balls. I even have few red balls from 20 yrs ago that are almost pinkish white now.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 05, 2021, 12:42:45 AM
I added two pics of the ball.  I was told by a friend resurfacing it will take care of it. 
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: justlane on July 06, 2021, 08:20:45 AM

The pictures look like wear from the lanes, especially high friction areas on the lanes. Does your center ever oil?


Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: SpinBowler300 on July 06, 2021, 10:38:51 AM
At lease you don't have a blue track from that STUPID blue oil they use on TV.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 06, 2021, 10:56:53 AM
There is oil on the lanes.  I would think the whole track area should have friction lines not use the two ends of the flare rings. 
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: justlane on July 06, 2021, 12:12:18 PM

Part of your ball track will be in the oil and not have the wear.  It could easily be after your ball exits the oil pattern, though.

Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 06, 2021, 12:20:35 PM
I sent the inquiry to storm and just sent pictures to them.  Iíll see what they say.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: Jesse James on July 08, 2021, 11:51:55 AM

The pictures look like wear from the lanes, especially high friction areas on the lanes. Does your center ever oil?

NAILED IT! Its exactly what JUSTLANE said. It's friction wear lines showing after the ball hits the dry areas of the lane. When I see this, it tells me that I didn't use the right tool for that particular lane condition! The lanes you're bowling on don't have quite enough oil to sustain the pieces you're using. That is all. I get them all the time!
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: bowling4burgers on July 08, 2021, 08:32:16 PM
It's just called phazing. When heat is introduced to resin of any ball manufacturer including black reactive resin balls there will be a color change to dark purple with white streaks around the entire surface of all bowling balls. I even have few red balls from 20 yrs ago that are almost pinkish white now.

Yeah but phazing looks cool, this just looks like the lane scratched up his ball.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 09, 2021, 01:35:28 AM

The pictures look like wear from the lanes, especially high friction areas on the lanes. Does your center ever oil?

NAILED IT! Its exactly what JUSTLANE said. It's friction wear lines showing after the ball hits the dry areas of the lane. When I see this, it tells me that I didn't use the right tool for that particular lane condition! The lanes you're bowling on don't have quite enough oil to sustain the pieces you're using. That is all. I get them all the time!


Storm tech support stated it was friction that is causing it.  My pso said the same.  Even though itís polished it still does that.

I think it was the right tool because it was a fresh 42 foot pattern.I didnít use it after the middle of the second game because it was beginning to burn up.

They are five year old overlays, so they arenít burnt up wood lanes.

Like I told storm they performance is fine.  I just want to explain to people why there are lines on a new ball.
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 09, 2021, 07:21:22 AM
I thought I heard somewhere (maybe Randy said it during a show) that black balls technically arent completely black, that they are a really deep purple.  That doesnt really make sense to me why a black ball would have purple in it (unless it is a multi-color ball).  But it may explain why you are seeing purple in the track in this situation.

I remember many years ago, a friend of mine had a Nitro R/2 test ball that looked black.  But after throwing a few games, his track was purple whereas the rest of the ball looked black. This ball was used on newer synthetics in a Brunswick center that had just opened. 
Title: Re: discoloration on track
Post by: r534me on July 15, 2021, 02:29:27 AM
I thought I heard somewhere (maybe Randy said it during a show) that black balls technically arent completely black, that they are a really deep purple.  That doesnt really make sense to me why a black ball would have purple in it (unless it is a multi-color ball).  But it may explain why you are seeing purple in the track in this situation.

I remember many years ago, a friend of mine had a Nitro R/2 test ball that looked black.  But after throwing a few games, his track was purple whereas the rest of the ball looked black. This ball was used on newer synthetics in a Brunswick center that had just opened. 

Interesting I had the r2 and it was purple.  Maybe it was going to be black?

I remember my hyroad x had the same lines in the track, so maybe itís just the dark colored balls that look that.

Thanks everyone for their replies.  Iíll just hit it with the pads when the lines appear. Again, I didnít see any change in the performance when the lines appear.