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xrayjay

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does the color of the cover stock have some...
« on: December 02, 2015, 01:31:09 PM »
affect in ball reaction vs balls with multi color?
Does a round object have sides? I say yes, pizza has triangles..

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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 01:43:40 PM »
It has been alleged that different color pigments can affect ball reaction. There have been quite a few instances that I've heard of over the years of test balls reacting a certain way only to have production balls be quite different once different color pigments were used in the finished products. I remember hearing allegations like that with both the Hammer Deal and the old Bone XS to be sure. I know I've heard of others, but I can't think of any by name.

So, yes, color can sometimes cause reaction changes, but that doesn't mean that a red ball will hook more than a blue ball or that a two-colored ball will hook more or less than a tri-colored ball. It's simply goofy differences that sometimes arise when you're mixing multiple things to make one finished product.


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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 05:39:53 PM »
I remember the Storm Tropical Heat pearl was originally introduced in a red & blue cover stock,  Apparently the red/blue cover stock did not perform as expected and within a few months was replaced with an orange & purple cover stock.  The orange/purple was around for two to three years before hitting the discontinued list.

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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 12:04:08 AM »
Ebonite had a video about this and even showed the differences when they hyped the original Mission.  I sure wish I could find a NIB 14lb with decent specs and be reasonably priced.

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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 07:50:36 AM »

Color, by itself, has less to do with reaction than it used to.  Advancements have helped with that.  However, sometimes the manufacturer needs to adjust the coverstock formula slightly in order to achieve their desired color. 

For example, the Pink/Black Slingshot (if memory is correct) was actually the cover from the original Inferno because the pink turned out better with that formulation, which made that particular Slingshot a little better than the rest (in my opinion).

Perceived reaction versus actual reaction will always come into play.  Some colors are seen by the eyes differently which can give the impression that "Ball A" hooks more than "Ball B", when in actuality they are the same (or any difference is barely distinguishable).



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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 07:26:39 PM »
pretty interesting.....

In the past, maybe 10 years ago or so, I've heard guys say solid colored balls roll smoother than multi-colored balls. I'm not sure how true that can be now. but it's pretty interesting cause I have two solid colored balls and they both have different ball motions with very similar drills - solid covers with different OOB finish.
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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 08:08:05 PM »

Perceived reaction versus actual reaction will always come into play. 


I think this is spot on.  multi-color balls just give a better visual indication to the motion it makes than a single solid color.

one of the better balls to compare this is the IQ tour and IQ tour nano; give how similar they are.

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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2016, 03:04:05 PM »
I was lucky enough to tour the EBI facility in Hopkinsville a few years ago
they told us that color did affect overall hook
Red and White hooked the most
this was 3 or 4 years ago


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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2016, 05:51:57 PM »
Oh no, not this topic again.

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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2016, 09:21:52 PM »
Trust me...there's a lot more perception than reality with a dash of marketing...
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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2016, 08:09:46 AM »
 This topic is a lot like the static weight argument.

 Some will say yes, makes a difference that matters.

 Others will say no, really not enough that you will ever notice.


 Me personally, I dont think I would drill a red ball any different than I would any other ball.

 To me, color only matters aesthetically.
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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2016, 08:44:09 AM »
He's right about the mission. During testing the ref mission out hooked the blue mission by an arrow..
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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2016, 09:22:35 AM »
Everyone knows pastel colors out-hook bold ones.   ;)
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2016, 10:38:02 AM »
I thought surface dictated hook...weird (:
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Re: does the color of the cover stock have some...
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2016, 11:04:01 AM »
The story I heard back when I started bowling around the urethane era just before the resin balls was, It wasn't the color additive that made them stronger.

It was just that The companies used colors as basically a color coding system.

They used darker colors like black, burgundy etc. for the strong hooking balls and
the lighter colors for balls that were the weaker ones.

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