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Gunny

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Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« on: June 27, 2008, 08:06:08 AM »
just received them today, thanks Kevin & Valentino Bowling!  you guys are smoking fast with the shipping!  the snake oil has a citrus scent to it, and the resurrection has a....i kinda want to say spearmint scent?  labels look great and the 4oz containers were filled to the top.  i will try and make a vid & comparison with other products if you guys like.  one negative i have with all polish bottles and there direction is this....what does "generous" amount mean?  each individual has their own idea of that word.  so what would you guys say is a generous amount?

quarter size?  teaspoon?  couple of drops?



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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2008, 09:38:42 PM »
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As for the Widow Bite, Ebonite's coverstock technology is amazing at aggressiveness and oil absorption. Great Absorption doesn't equal good longevity. As Charlest suggested you need to exact some oil out of the ball, I recommend the Innovative Revivor. Once the oil absorption channels have been plugged with so much oil no matter what surface the ball has it will have recovery problems on the backend.


I could not agree with you more Kevin...
I also like the hot water baths for the at home guy that does not have access to the Revivor. I also think the Revivor is the best oil extractor out there.

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2008, 10:00:16 PM »
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Mr Beans.....dont hijack someone else's tread.That wasnt very nice  
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luv2C10falll,

Please check Gunny's response. He brought the Secret Sauce into the discussion. That is why I made my comments about the SS. I think Beans was fine in his comments. He was not putting down anyone else's products. He was only commenting on how to properly use his product.

We all sometimes make comments on threads that are not germane to the discussion. Sometimes with good reason, sometimes not I am the first to admit to have sidetracked some discussions, not realizing it til afterwards. I do not believe Beans was wrong here.
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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2008, 10:19:24 PM »
I received my Snake Oil and Resurrection a couple of weeks ago.  Product were very easy to apply.  I sanded down my Black Widow Solid and followed up with Resurrection and all I can say is wow, the first couple of games were just getting used to the change in reaction, yesterday I bowled a 4 game set with it and bowled a 227, 213, 206 and 202.  Ball reaction was amazing really impressed with the Resurrection, I plan to resand my wife's Gamebreaker and use the Resurrection on it as well.  I have used the Snake oil on my Sure Fire and loved the length it added and a very controlled move on the backend.  Love the products!

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 03:44:15 AM »
for a full resurface we go 400 grit silicone carbide sandpaper, then Resurrection.   Be sure to devote a towel to Resurrection, that way you can just wet the towel and add a small dap of Resurrection to restore the surface over and over.

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 08:42:30 AM »
Thanks for the info Kevin.

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 03:09:40 PM »
Not to mention that Snake Oil responds well to friction.  I used Resurrection, than Snake Oil on my Track Temper, and if that ball sniffs friction....Look out!

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2008, 03:31:45 PM »
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Not to mention that Snake Oil responds well to friction. I used Resurrection, than Snake Oil on my Track Temper, and if that ball sniffs friction....Look out!  


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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2008, 03:36:06 PM »
Recently purchase the sampler of Snake Oil/Resurrection.  Applied both to
my Roto Mystic didn't get a chance to throw it as of yet. Ball appeared to shine up pretty good after a buffing with a clean towel.

 Is it safe to use Resurrection on say a Hammer Cherry Vibe ?  Will the Snake Oil bring it back to its OOB condition ?

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2008, 04:01:31 PM »
The Vibe is a perfect match up for the ol' one-two punch (Resurrection, Then Snake Oil). If the ball has a real heavy track I would sand the ball to 400 grit, then give it the one/two punch.

Tell us how the Mystic reacts!

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2008, 04:01:39 PM »
Today while mowing my lawn, I saw a a package standing at my door.
One week ago I ordered the One/Two Punch package and there it was. We are talking overseas in Belgium.

Last week I resurfaced my Big one and my Total NV including a thorough washing.
Still I had no reaction in the backend. I tried Abralon 4000, 2000, 1000 and with factory finish in different amounts for the NV.

So I went back to the tub for another washing. Then I got the Resurrection and the snake oil so I used this after drying. The last step before Resurrection was a P1000 grit Abralon pad.

Today went bowling with my girl so I could test them. Both had reaction in the backend again. I had the best result with the Big One. It had enough of it's old power back to fit in again. For this I only used Resurrection.

The NV was a lot better, but still misted the pop. I have to "play" with the combo of the products some more.

I regret a little that I didn't test them before applying the Valentino products, so I could see if the second washing had any contribution. I think this is because the results amaze me.

So, after Hook Again treatment and washing including resurface did not show big difference, Resurrection did.

Conclusion: Impressed!

Antoine



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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2008, 04:33:24 PM »
Wow, that got there faster then I expected!

for both balls I would recommend sanding the balls to 400 to remove some of the surface, then apply Resurrection. Resurrection will take any grit from 400 to 5000+ to a sheen 800 grit.

Glad your Big One was Resurrected!

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2008, 01:27:00 PM »
Valentino, had the opportunity to throw the Mystic after using the double punch of resurrection and snake oil.  Ball had length like never before.
I am bowling in a center with fried backends, when I used the Mystic weeks ago ball would flip uncontrollably.  Last night after the snake oil treatment ball had great length but still a strong controllable finish.  Snake Oil gave my Mystic more length than my untreated Cherry Vibe.  thanks,.

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Re: Valentino Bowling Products**Results**
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 03:08:24 PM »
I got my Resurrection and Snake Oil order (btw, very fast delivery). I jumped right in and used the products on the following equipment:

1) Ball -- Lane#1 Super Carbide Bomb (SCB). Starting Surface -- 35 Micron Trizact, no polish, about 5 games since last resurface (about 100 games overall). Valentino Prep -- Resurrection by hand, followed by Snake Oil on the spinner.

2) Ball -- Lane#1 Uranium. Starting Surface -- 800 Grit Scotchbrite (grey pad), no polish, about 20 games since last resurface (about 50 games overall). Valentino Prep -- Resurrection by hand, NO Snake Oil polish.

3) Ball -- Lane#1 Super Carbide C++. Starting Surface -- NIB w/factory polish, about 25 games since drilling it up. Valentino Prep -- Resurrection by spinner to remove most of the old polish and track, followed by Snake Oil on the spinner.
 
4) Ball -- Brunswick Fury. Starting Surface -- 1000 Grit Abralon, no polish, about 5 games since last resurface (about 50 games overall). Valentino Prep -- Resurrection by spinner, NO Snake Oil polish. My original intent was to apply Snake Oil, but the sheen from using Resurrection on the spinner was surprisingly high, so I deferred on the polish.


Initial thoughts:

First, there is definitely a difference between using Resurrection on the spinner and by hand. On the spinner, there is a definite added sheen. By hand, you get more of the Matte Finished advertised by Valentino. From my perspective, it’s good to have the choice based on what you’re trying to achieve.

Second, Resurrection takes on the attributes of the starting surface grit of the ball. For instance, the 35 Micron finish on the SCB is dull (approx 360 grit), and no matter how much I worked Resurrection by hand, I couldn’t seem to get a 800 grit Matte Finish. Unless I was doing something wrong, I found that if you want to end of with 800 Matte, get the ball close to 800 first and then apply Resurrection. Regardless, the product applies easily by hand or by spinner.

Third, the finish left by both Resurrection and Snake Oil is tacky, and doesn’t wear off after a few shots on the lane.


On the Lane(s):

Overall on fresh THS, I felt I had better backend and overall reaction using every ball. On the Fury, I had more backend and recovery than I had ever achieved with any of the numerous other finishes/polishes I had tried in the past. On the SCB, the ball turned into a THS monster with the renewed and enhanced mid lane / backend reaction. The Uranium was similar. I didn’t see much difference in the Carbide+, but it’s still a relatively new ball that was working great, and I would have been surprised to see much difference.

After throwing several games on a THS pair, I moved over to a fresh lane with Shark. I was really curious how the Carbide+ would react from the long oil to minimal opportunity for friction on the backend that this pattern provides. I was very happy with how quickly the Carbide+ picked up the backend, and shot a consistent 223, 219 set. For the Carbide+, I really noticed a more pronounced difference on Shark than I did the THS.
 

Conclusion:

Based on my experience so far, I’m sold on the products. I spend a lot of time on the spinner with different surfaces and polishes, and I’ve never been this excited about a set of products. I’m also very happy with Bean’s Secret Sauce, and feel between the two sets of products can achieve whatever I want to get for a specific situation.
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Edited on 7/16/2008 3:40 PM