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chitown

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Why buy hook again or CPR?
« on: November 20, 2006, 03:27:43 PM »
I'm just cuious about the response I will get.

Do you guys feel it's kind of a waste to buy a hook again system or the CPR from Columbia?  The reason I ask is simple.  I clean my bolwing balls after every few games or after each set.  I use Ebonites energizer cleaner.  That's about it.  I know I should probably use a deeper cleanr once in a while but haven't needed it.

Next, if one of my bowling balls looses it's reaction to the point where I don't like what I see on the lanes I will just resurface the ball.

If all else fails and the ball seems to be dead then I would just buy another ball.

My point is why even bother with a hook again system or CPR?  Bowling balls are not that dam exspensive to where you couldn't just replace one every now and then.

I have had balls with 1000+ games on them and they still worked great.  

What do you guys think?
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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 02:10:50 AM »
Here are some valid reasons:

1. Resurfacing does not restore a ball if it's oil soaked; it only removes the track. It must be rejuvenated.

2. Some balls are real gems and are not replaceable.

3. To many people, a new ball is a true expense. Everyone doesn't have internet access or know where to get a good deal. Some people are stuck with pro shops that charge $75 to drill a blank and $250 for a drilled Rampage or Doom or Thunderstruck.

4. Not everyone gets 1000 games from all balls.


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dizzyfugu

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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 02:50:51 AM »
Hmmm, since there are cheap at-home methods available for oil extraction, I stick to them. A friend of mine used a CPR treatment on his Absolute Inferno, and it was - measured by the money - a disappointment (totally matching the manufacturer's warning). But it was worth the effort, so we became sure that this was no lead to follow any further in ball maintenance.

Personally, I am a strong believer in the warm water bucket. It is cheap and effective. Besides, I try to reduce surface works on the balls to a minimum and keep them clean before I have to take rejuvenation measures. I think you can really sustain longevity of a surface when you take some care.
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shelley

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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2006, 08:47:48 AM »
$30 or so for a rejuvenation vs. $150+ for a new ball sounds like the new ball is expensive.

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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 10:36:54 AM »
For years and years and years and etc. etc. I've used natural resources to de-oil my balls and have always been successful with no bad results and have NEVER had a damaged ball using this method and that natural resource method is.......The SUN

I know that some people advise against it, but it has always worked for me.

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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 10:55:06 AM »
Yes, either of those products would be a waste for me.  Usually, I don't own a ball long enough to put 100 or 250 or 500 games on it to cause reaction loss.  If I happened to own a ball that I REALLY liked and did keep it for that long (as in my first khameleon) or purchase a used ball to try out, I own a rejuvenator which can help restore some of the ball reaction.  So for me it doesn't make too much sense.

For others, the cost of the product (roughly $30), is much cheaper than buying a brand-new high end bowling ball in a proshop.  Granted, most people don't routinely pay high-end prices ($220 though $260), but still it is a cost-effective method.  This is especially true if you own a ball that you really like and want to restore performance.  With that being said, I personally would still prefer a "heat" method over an absorbent method.  To me, it seems logical that a heat method would as well, if not better, than the absorbent...  so I would probably try the hot water/bucket method first...

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Re: Why buy hook again or CPR?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 12:07:37 PM »
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Hmmm, since there are cheap at-home methods available for oil extraction, I stick to them. A friend of mine used a CPR treatment on his Absolute Inferno, and it was - measured by the money - a disappointment (totally matching the manufacturer's warning). But it was worth the effort, so we became sure that this was no lead to follow any further in ball maintenance.

Personally, I am a strong believer in the warm water bucket. It is cheap and effective. Besides, I try to reduce surface works on the balls to a minimum and keep them clean before I have to take rejuvenation measures. I think you can really sustain longevity of a surface when you take some care.
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This has been covered before, but:

Different ball companies use different coverstocks, and they have different recommendations for oil extraction.

Brunswick recommends heat - Morich recommends hot water soaking.  I believe Morich was using Brunswick coverstocks, so soaking should work for both.

Ebonite recommends Hook Again, and strongly recommneds against heat.  A few years ago a dude in leagues had an Ebonite and during the summer that thing would come out of his trunk just soaked - oil or plasticizers?  He never had any problems with that ball as far as I know.  Somebody else on here told a story about putting a brand new Ebonite ball in a Revivor (or rejuvinator) and the ball sweated off something - most likely plasticizers.

Columbia300 also recommends chemical extraction (CPR system), and warns against "baking" a ball.

Basically, it's been said to follow the manufacturer's recommended method, but it's your ball, so do whatever you want.
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