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hamma

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can you drill all break from a ball?
« on: January 29, 2010, 10:24:54 AM »
i want a ball that will go straight without any break, is there any such thing, if not are there any layouts (right hander) that would accomplish the same thing?

 

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 06:59:04 PM »
ummm.....a plastic ball would be a good option.

hamma

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 08:09:16 PM »
i have tried the roto grip crown, storm ice, and columbia blue dot.  proshop operator said he could drive the ice with weights (imbalance) that would send it straight, i threw it and it hooked.  so proshop operator sez here buy this crown and i will drill it up and it will go straight...sure it did.

shelley

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 08:18:37 PM »
Better to simply learn how to throw it straight.  There's only so much you can do with the ball.  If you're hooking a Blue Dot and an Ice, either there's not enough oil on the lanes or you're not throwing it right.

There's also the wacky idea of changing the surface.  As with every other ball out there, if it hooks too much out of box, make a surface change.  There are a variety of polishes out there that will increase length and reduce backend.

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hamma

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 08:37:12 PM »
thanks shelley, but i haven't figured the magic release to straighten it out.  i have used extender polishes from 2 vendors.  i am almost to the point of not wasting my time trying to pickup the 10 pin, just take a free pocket shot.

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 08:54:21 PM »
To make the ten pin:

1.  Stand as far as you can to the left and use a plastic ball.
2.  Open your shoulders so your body faces the ten pin, break your wrist back, spread your index finger as wide as you can, and roll the ball over until the weight is on your index finger.
3.  Keep the weight on your index finger throughout the swing and concentrate on bringing the fingers straight up the back of the ball at release.
4.  Figure out what target you have to use to hit the ten pin and then hit that target.
5.  Don't worry if the ball thumps the thumb hole, that means you've thrown it right.  --  JohnP

hamma

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 09:10:58 PM »
thanks JohnP, i have never tried the index finger as key, i will try that.

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 10:07:50 AM »
Another thing I should have added -- some folks have trouble getting their thumb out clean with their hand straight behind the ball.  If that's the case with you, try not inserting your thumb quite as far and see if that helps.  You may have to plug the thumb and add reverse and left pitch.  Another thing I do is just put my fingers in about half way.  --  JohnP

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 10:12:36 AM »
Another trick is to remove the index finger and just use ring finger and thumb.

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 12:24:31 PM »
...or take your fingers out completely so its just the thumb in the ball. This will help you feel the way  the ball should come off your hand when throwing it straight.

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Another trick is to remove the index finger and just use ring finger and thumb.

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2010, 02:19:10 PM »
When I lived in San Antonio back when Columbia was still pouring there, there were test ball days where some of the better bowlers in town where invited to throw test equipment and give feeback.

Rumor was Columbia had developed a coverstock that would not hook and the test group got to bowl with it.

Would such a coverstock be useful?

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2010, 02:33:16 PM »
use an old urethane ball. My old Nitro wont hook..dam thing nearly backs up in oil LOL
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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2010, 02:36:41 PM »
There's a pin axis drilling where the pin is on your PAP. The ball will roll very early with extremely little overall hook on normal patterns. It's not something that you will be able to use very often, but sometimes the conditions call for it.    A polished ball with a pin axis drilling, for me, has done almost nothing short of using it on short patterns. Even with a higher rev rate, the ball has no energy left to turn the corner. Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it's an option out there.
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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2010, 03:08:15 PM »
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That would be an illegal delivery. USBC rules specify that any hole not used for gripping is considered an X hole, and you're only allowed one. Delivering the ball using just your thumb would give you 2 X holes, making the ball illegal.

You're required to have at least 2 digits in the ball until it comes off your hand.


Clyde's right.  It would not be an illegal delivery.  You might make that argument if someone turned the ball so the finger holes were off to the side, but even there, I don't think you'd be able to find anyone to take any action against that bowler.

Another possibility is to put just one finger and the thumb in when shooting 10-pins.  It is difficult to hit up on the ball that much when you've only got one finger doing the pulling.

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Re: can you drill all break from a ball?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2010, 03:09:10 PM »
if you really want to drill a ball to go straight drill a plastic ball conventional grip for your ring and pinky fingers... Robert Smith used to do this.