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BKloss

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Double Thumb Drilling
« on: July 31, 2008, 02:57:54 AM »
Has anyone drilled Mo's Double thumb drilling? if you have, what difference did you see the differences?, roll? snap? Thanks
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 11:01:27 AM »
Are you referring to the MoRich Dual Angle technique?
http://www.morichbowling.com/MosCorner/DualAngleSeminar/DualAngleSeminar.htm
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 11:08:30 AM »
Basically, the Double Thumb drilling is a normal drilling with a large x-hole on the gradient line near the thumb hole. This makes the ball look like it has a "double thumb," thus the name.

Putting the x-hole in that location will dramatically increase the flare potential and MB, if my information is correct. I'm not 100% sure, but what I can tell you for certain is this:

1) The drilling sets up a more dynamic ball reaction (FYI, that doesn't mean go long and turn left)

2) The balls I have seen drilled this way hook...ALOT. They don't roll right away, but they quickly pick up and are very continuous throughout the entire lane.
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 11:11:28 AM »
I get it ... he is calling the Gradient Line Technique the "double thumb" technique because of the size of the hole on the gradient line. I have never heard it called that before.

I learned something new today.
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 11:17:10 AM »
sorry for the confusion, thanks rev and 1


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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 11:28:45 AM »
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sorry for the confusion, thanks rev and 1


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Hey, no confusion, and no worries! Glad we could help.
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 11:30:23 AM »
Another quick question?

can this be done on ANY ball?
(Ex: Kinetic = Skid/Snap so which this drilling it would be stronger and more constant?)
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 11:33:13 AM »
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Another quick question?

can this be done on ANY ball?
(Ex: Kinetic = Skid/Snap so which this drilling it would be stronger and more constant?)
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It can be done on any ball. That being said, I think you should look for some pre-drilling specs. A longer pin is typically required.
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 11:39:37 AM »
Can you explain why a longer pin is required?

Reason is because I just bought an NSane Levrg, sitting on the wall waiting for me...its in the range of 3" top is 3oz
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 11:44:55 AM »
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Can you explain why a longer pin is required?

Reason is because I just bought an NSane Levrg, sitting on the wall waiting for me...its in the range of 3" top is 3oz
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By drilling the "second thumb"/x-hole, you end up taking a lot of weight out near the thumb. In order to keep everything legal, and keep the x-hole location you want, you need to start with more weight near the thumb...i.e., the CG closer to the palm/thumb area...if that makes any sense. That was the explanation provided to me by a driller who has done several of these on customers' balls.
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 11:45:29 AM »
Once again thank you
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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 12:15:11 PM »
When I was a newbie this was an old school trick used by my driller at the time, he was taught by Ron Hoppe how to setup balls like this.

You do not need a longer pin but if shorter pin it will be pin under ring or bridge, it will increase the midlane reaction and backend. The cg will land right above the thumb hole and yes legal statics can be an issue with the wrong weighted ball.

We used this on a Pantera, Tiger, 3D violet all made me look like my rev rate went up 50-60 rpm's, at the time i was lucky to be 230-250 rpm area. I went from not being able too hardly wrinkle a ball to a decent amount of hook set reaction.

The one thing that you have to watch out for is the ball will just poop out with no oil, roll out becomes an issue because the core has used almost all energy early getting the ball to kick in.

generally games 1 and 2 were safe and game 3 was a ball change to something drilled pin high.

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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 12:21:02 PM »
I've seen an internet write-up on this, but all I can find right now is

https://www.buddiesproshop.com/121/Gradient_Line_Presentation.htm

which gives partial information.  --  JohnP

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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 12:24:20 PM »
aiiiii.....the old gradient line!

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Re: Double Thumb Drilling
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 04:20:44 PM »
I did it on a sure fire, widened the flare rings some. It went from right on top of each other to about 1/4" separation.