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wpzone

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Storm Natural layout suggestions
« on: September 14, 2009, 03:17:36 PM »
I am looking for layout suggestions for the Natural.  I just found out my wife ordered it for me and it will be here this week.

I am a higher speed (19mph off hand) higher rev (425) player with very little tilt(PAP 5 3/4> x 3/4^).  I am looking to use the Natural on the shorter PBA patterns as well as drier house china.  My favorite layouts are 5x4 pin up (2-2 1/2 buffer) or modified RICO with pin just below my bridge, though this layout is VERY strong for me.  

I had planned on going with the 5x4 layout but have read of a lot of success with 4x4 layouts, keeping the cg on the midline.  My typical issues with shorter/drier patterns is either too early of a read or too jumpy off the back and an extreme angle to the poket.

Any suggestions?

 

lil League Coach

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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 12:57:35 PM »
I drilled mine up 4  x  4  with a 2" buffer.. ball rolls extremely smooth and hits very hard.  Great ball for viper, Cheetah
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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 01:23:34 PM »
4x4 should be nice

wpzone

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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 02:53:15 PM »
Yea, I think I am leaning towards 4x4.

the pooh

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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 09:04:50 PM »
Mine is 4x4, pin under ring finger. I love it! It is my "get out of jail free" card. This ball is great on difficult or over-under conditions. I really don't think the layout is too critical on this ball because of the coverstock and core. I have considered getting another and drilling it pin up, though! Great ball!
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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 02:01:14 PM »
I drilled mine with a 4x4 with pin kicked up 2 inches and at 40 degrees. Left it box condition and it looks great when Colony Park North is fresh and even on our short oil pattern and the cheetah that we use for the tournament here. Good luck with what ever lay out you decide.
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Scott_in_PA

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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 01:27:54 PM »
I got mine for a very particular purpose.  One house I bowl in has old wood lanes.  The condition is a total flood inside of 9 or 10 with carrydown, so everyone is forced to start in the track area, which burns up in about 5 frames.  

For most of the last 3 months of last season, I successfully used my 1980-era Turbo pearl urethane around the first arrow.  Biggest problem was weak ten pins, as I couldn't get quite enough angle.  What I was hoping for with the Natural (because of a dynamic core) was to get a similar reaction, maybe a little stronger with just a touch more in the back.

I asked my driller to get me one with a 3-4" pinout so we could drill something like 5 x 5 pin over bridge.  He said of the roughly 25 balls in stock at his wholesalers, the longest pinout was 2.5".  We thought about putting the pin and CG on the centerline, pin just over, CG just under, but this would require deep finger holes to make it legal.  I wasn't comfortable with it.

Biggest mistake I made was reading the reviews, especially BJI where they have the Natural in the very bottom-left square on their grid (most length, least angle), many squares away from even relatively weak balls like the Fast.  If the ball was that weak, I didn't want to kill it even more with a weak drilling.  So I decided on putting the pin in my ring finger (about 4.75" from PAP), CG straight down, with a tiny hole on my PAP.

This ball is surprisingly strong.  Sure, it will probably hook 3 boards on a fresh Shark pattern, but on light to medium conditions, it is stronger than I was expecting or hoping, about 8-10 boards stonger than the old Turbo.  It starts pretty early (as I was expecting, regardless of the reviews) and then it just goes and goes.  Very continuous arc and roll.  Carry is not an issue.  Very quickly I hit it with a 4000 Abralon pad by hand, which tamed it a tiny bit.  Then I tried a light coat of polish, which didn't seem to change the reaction much.  I will try to come up with a way to get a high gloss finish on it.  I can use it as is, but it requires me to swing it more than I want to swing a urethane ball.

Bottom line in my opinion only:  the Natural can handle a little bit of oil.  Drill it strong if you plan to use it on a fairly normal but short pattern.  If your plan, like mine, is to use it on toast, drill it as long & weak as you can.

Scott.


wpzone

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Re: Storm Natural layout suggestions
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 01:25:31 AM »
Thanks for all the responses.  I ordered mine with a 4" pin.  It came in last week and I drilled it 5x4 with a 2 1/2 pin-val buffer and an x-hole below my axis on the midline.  This ball is pure gold when the lanes break down or the back ends are flying as it really evens out the transition.  It looks like it just arcs all the way down the lane, just nice and smooth. I do need to play with the surface as it has occasionally read the dry a bit early.  

Now i just need to find a ball to fit between my T-Road Pearl and the Natural, probably a Fast, but I need a layout to calm the backend as I dont want the skid flip.  I need the length of the T-Road pearl with some midlane and a smooth, controllable backend.