win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: What are the ideal Static Weights...  (Read 1971 times)

zeusjr

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2619
What are the ideal Static Weights...
« on: October 20, 2006, 11:49:42 AM »
...  For the Rico drilling?

 

tekneek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5657
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 07:54:04 PM »
if you want a totally smooth rolling ball with no influences, zero. If you want a little help or stronger move no more than 3/8 oz
--------------------
Steve
Leading Edge Pro Shop
512-755-2947
e-mail tekneek@281.com

www.dynothane.com
D/T Customer Service 1-877-828-7177
Use option #1.

Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Steve
Leading Edge Pro Shop
Radical Bowling Technologies Advisory Staff
brinkley2223@yahoo.com
512-755-2947

zeusjr

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2619
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 08:00:29 PM »
3/8 finger, side, and thumb?

zeusjr

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2619
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2006, 09:44:21 PM »
quote:
The statics are irrelevant...it is the size of the weight hole as well as the depth. On the Rico, the pin placement is as important as the weight hole.


Ok, so how does a larger hole make the ball react over a smaller hole?  Same question as for a deaper hole?

Greg T

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19916
  • Collateral Damage
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2006, 11:52:51 PM »
quote:
You're altering the core dynamics.  By drilling the hole deeper you are making the block "taller".  This keeps some differential in it and keeps a good bit of flare in it.

Weight holes and pin placement is all about core dynamics and orientation.  If you put a hole in the block it alters its characteristics.  This is why static weights are irrelevant.
--------------------
http://www.allbowling.com/registry/public.php?regid=61

http://www.myspace.com/rlrussell


   Let me clarify. Ending statics are not that important. But, the statics ARE very important before you drill the weight hole. Example: Lets say you want to fine tune with a weight hole. If the side weight is already at zero or so, you will not have much left to drill out. If you're looking for a larger hole and you only have 1/2 ounce or so to go, you wont get it. Thats the reason I always order my equipment with a 3" pin and 3 ounce TW. It gives me the option of just about any size hole I want.


AllBowling.com Off-Ramp!           

T-GOD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 03:48:20 PM »
Ideal static weights depend on what you want the ball to do. Balls that end with high positive side weight, will give you more length and more backend. Balls that end with little or no side, will have an earlier roll and less backend.

Using a weighthole will on the PAP side of the ball to reduce side weight only makes the ball roll earlier and smoother in this instance.

Why....because this layout starts with a bunch of positive side weight, and as we know, more side weight = more length and more backend.

Weight holes on the neg side of your grip increase positive side weight, giving you more length and backend.

In general, weight holes on the positive side of your grip only make the ball roll earlier with less backend.

Does it matter where you place the weight hole..? Does a weight hole in a different position change the reaction of the ball..? Yes it does.

Why...because if you have a hole in 2 different positions, you're ending with 2 different sets of static weights. The ending static weights are different if you place the hole in a different position.

Therefore, if the ending static weights are different, the ball will react different..!!

You could argue that if you destroy the whole shape of the core with a hole, like taking out a whole flip block, then yes, the hole position is what's changing the ball reaction.

But, we're only drilling weight holes roughly 3" deep, barely touching the cores. So, we're not taking much out of the shape of the core for that to have a major influence on ball reactions.

You know what's funny..? I never hear of drillers or guru's talking about hitting a certain part of a particular core to change the reaction.

Like you would need to place a hole here to remove the corner of the core, so the core will revolve differently, giving you a different ball reaction. You never hear this.

Placing the hole has always been a referenced in general positions by Brunswick with no concern for each different shape of core.

WHY IS THAT..?

Because in REALITY, it's all about the ending static weights and/or ending CG, not how much or what part of the core you've changed by hitting it with a hole..!! =:^D



Edited on 10/22/2006 3:44 PM

justdale

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1879
Re: What are the ideal Static Weights...
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 07:34:29 PM »
Well since every one is different at how they bowl, Zero would work best