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Jeffrevs

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Anomaly Problems?
« on: February 15, 2004, 08:45:07 PM »
Caveat: I'm not slamming D/T!

Is it me, or is there a lot of performance type related posts in regards to the Anomaly ??

Just wondrin'........
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2004, 12:32:31 PM »
Jeff,

I have performance problems with mine, it could just be that the ball does not fit my game at all. I figured it would since it was a supposed to be a strong, dull ball which is usually what I use best. The box finish (1000grit smooth) just seemed to me like this ball had to have fresh backends. If the lanes were spotty I could not use this ball at all.

This is just my experience with it.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2004, 12:46:38 PM »
Thanks EX...this brings me to a change in thought...I guess what I'm saying is that I'm seeing/reading a lot of people are expecting one thing, and getting another I guess.......
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2004, 01:18:44 PM »
For me, polished, matte or dull box, this is just too much ball. I think it is a very good ball, for the vast majority. Low rev, House shot people should love the crap out of this ball. High speeders should love it on medium to medium-heavy oil. If you like to throw a huge hook, you should love it. Personally, I fall into none of those categories, plus I never see enough oil to make good use of it.
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2004, 01:51:30 PM »
Jeff,...I read all the D/T reviews,..and most of all the other site reviews also. I see reviews from great to hate on most every ball that comes out. Even what i thought was probably one of the best balls to come out in years, the Inferno, had it's share of reviews that were "not all that". Most of the controversy seems to come with the high-end, condition specific balls,..ie big hookers, lots of particle, or new and improved,..etc.  
Most disappointed reviews come from customers who I think (and this is my opinion only) expect the ball to do all the work. Your 160 average bowler can't buy a ball, any ball, and raise his average 30-40 pins over night, or hook the ball like Robert Smith or get Chris Barnes rev rate. I think that sometimes expectations run too high. With all the variables that come from the factory in bowling balls,..... top weights, pin to cg, surfaces, and ball weight,...then the different drillings, different conditions around the world,..and each bowler is different,..it's easy to see where not every customer is satisfied..
EXCALIBER wrote"maybe the ball don't fit my game at all", and even our own Bamaster said that the Anomaly was too much ball for his hi-rev game and had to polish them just to throw them,...I'm not defending D/T, nor the Anomaly, or any one elses equipment.  Buying a new bowling ball in todays market is not as easy as it once was,...selections are unlimited, ball sellers need to move what they have on the shelf today because tomorrow they may be outdated, and what works for me might be a terrible ball for you. My advice to all the people who ask me about equipment is read-read-read, ask-ask-ask- and then watch. It takes time,as in all sports, to find the type equipment that works best for your game.  
Remember reviews are written by bowlers from all over, from low average to high average,...It's too bad that we can't test drive a bowling ball before we buy it like a new driver, or a car, or try it on like a new suit....even then somtimes that doesn't work.  je

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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2004, 01:58:37 PM »
Jim,
I understand your post, very well put...however, I was referring more to the posts here not the review section....

Just a lot of cover tweaking going on, and basic 'non' comfortable type posts. Nothing drastically negative, but not screaming positive either.  Let me reiterate as well, that I'm not slamming this ball or D/T, because I'm loving my Element right now....just a sweet strong smooth mid-lane reader ....so I'm not being negative, I was simply wondering if others have noticed what I have too........
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jimensminger

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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2004, 02:18:51 PM »
I too have noticed what you reference. I don't have an answer. Just what I talked about before..
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2004, 02:56:02 PM »
Jeff,Good friend (owns 44 lane house and on ABC Team champs 2001)drilled one about 3 weeks ago. (he drills about 3 ball a week for himself to try).  His feedback was "The big booming backend that was advertised wasn't there!  What was there was an excellent midlane read and smooth continuous backend. His comment was one of the better balls he has drilled in the past 12 months. He went 757 first time with it in league. It didn't fit into his arsenal where he thought it would but it has found its place. I think this says it all about the controversy, many were expecting a miracle big hooker and it seems like it has been more about control.

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2004, 03:35:49 PM »
I've noticed it too.  But I think we might have shot ourselves in the foot a little bit during the pre-release.  There was a "buzz" around this ball like I've never seen... everyone was talking about it.

My first Anomaly was was uncontrollable, to the point I couldn't use it.  My second one was the exact opposite since I drilled a negative pin. I've since drilled a third one, because I dropped from 15 lbs to 14, and this one is perfect.  About a 5" pin with the cg inside, lots of shine... very nice early roll, with a very smooth, controllable backend.  Very nice.

The problem might have been that most people were expecting this thing to hook into the next lane, and as such have drilled it non-strong and/or polished the bezeebus out of it.  Fortunately the Soaker coverstock is very responsive to polish and can be glassed up like no other.  So it's easy to tame the beast.

But if you drilled it strong, maybe a 4" pin, stacked, with box surface... I'll bet it'll be plenty strong for most people's expectations.  

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2004, 10:23:58 AM »
There is an additional problem with this whole discussion and that is the definition of a "hooking" ball.  Frankly, most people don't play lines that require a ball to hook nearly as much as they think.  A line where one lays down the ball at 14-15, hits 10-11 at 20 feet to a breakpoint of 7-8 is not playing a big swing.  If you consider standing with your left foot on 21 or 22 to be "deep", then when you are moving there to use your "stronger" ball,you are catching far more oil than you are used to and, frankly, lengthening the oil, meaning you won't get the reaction you think you should get.  So, if your normal shot is just inside to outside the oil line -- or entirely outside the oil line (the area where the heavier oil really begins on a wet dry or most tapers), which is how most house bowlers play, a strong ball may overhook for you, while if you try to play deeper than usual you might find a strong ball doesn't behave the way you believe a "strong" ball should behave.  For example, the folks who see me bowl ... suggest ... that I have a relatively high forward roll rev rate.  Yet I throw less "hook" than many of the players in my leagues.  Why, because I stay almost entire inside the heaviest oil to the breakpoint (the houses I bowl at have oil that goes out to 41 to 43 feet).  So I might throw an Anomaly 18 out to 10 or 11, never straying outside the heavy oil where the severe taper or wet-dry really kicks in (also, from that angle, there is an out of bounds around five) and staying in the middle of the carrydown; I use the ball to cut through the crap.  Another player, with a different style (let us say a lighter hand with a higher degree of axis tilt and a higher angle of axis rotation) might lay the ball down at 11 or 12, play out to 5 or 6 and appear to be throwing more hook and be thrilled with the big "hook" his Anomaly gives him (any resemblance between this story and actual persons is purely intentional).  

So hand is an issue, oil is an issue, but perspective on what is hook and what one's basic line is also may explain loads of comments.  Drilled strong and with a 800 surface, the Anomaly moves big in comparison to other reactive equipment.  Drilled weaker and with the surface set around 800, it can be used as a control ball for carrydown.  It is not a particle ball.  It will not start up as early as the super early roller, heavy load particles.  It will move.
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2004, 12:09:20 PM »
The measure of a ball that's most relevant for me is how much I can trust it to do what I intend it to. I trust my one DT ball the Thing a lot. No surprises even on flying backends.

Hook is problematic. It even confuses some pro-shops. A pro-shop operator I know sold a Super Freak to a friend of mine who wanted a ball with a really big backend. Even with a high polish that ball won't have a really big backend. After that, my pro-shop friend learned never to trust anything but RG, Diff and reviews from people he trusts.



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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2004, 01:09:59 PM »
reminds me of the story about the 3 blind men that were asked to describe what an elephant looked like.........
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 02:20:37 PM »
I'm not sure if I would consider the Anomoly a true oil ball. Because this ball has a higher RG, 2.53 with the weight/dense flip block near the surface of the ball, the ball tends to go long and needs dry boards/more drier boards than a lower RG core without a flip block on top. It would be better on oil if the flip block was on the bottom and/or had a lower RG. This is just my opinion.

This is still a good ball, but maybe not for what it's advertised for. =:^D

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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 04:27:41 PM »
A little off Anomaly topic here...I hope you guys are right about the soaker coverstock needing/liking a breaking in period. I have about 9 games on my Thing Returns and so far my reviews are mixed. Seems a tad touchy to me at times. When it hits the pocket, it's been hitting hard, but seems overly sensitive to speed and/or hand changes. Might play with the surface a bit after I get another 20 games on it or so....
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Re: Anomaly Problems?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2004, 04:40:25 PM »
Yeah, the Thing Returns is highly sensitive to dry boards.  Mine is very angular.  I can only use it when there is long oil or lots of carry down.

Bowl enough with it to get a little track on it, that'll soften the bite a little.  

Most aggressive pearlized balls have this issue.  The store enrgy as it is and when it sniffs the dry it jumps.  You might be able to sliiiightly scuff the flare bowtie and get a more predictable breakpoint.

Food for thought.

Tony