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jimensminger

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THE Zr40
« on: February 22, 2006, 11:49:16 PM »
In the last 3 weeks with this ball I've won a scratch tournament, shot 826 without a 300, and just shot my second 300 last night. I've had 2-3, 279's and a 290,and nothing under 720 in league..This ball is amazing, my league-mates say I'm cheating. The ball is not a hook monster, no fancy drillings. Basic pin under the ring, and out of the box surface. I'm playing the same part of the lane as most everyone else. But here's what I see,...I carry more strikes than ever before. The ball carries the ten pin better than any ball I've ever seen. I can't explain it, but even the balls off my hand that aren't exactly my best still seem to hit and carry,...can't put this one down. jime

 

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2006, 08:13:14 AM »
Atta boy Jim, but think about it Jim. When you are robotic you can do that , we, being mear mortals are not as likely to do as well. Great shooting, keep it up, you are the "man" in Dynothane lore.
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 08:23:08 AM »
Just got my ZR40 drilled up on Tuesday, but only got to throw it a little bit and haven't quite got a feel to it yet...the couple of pocket 4-9 splits were kind of surprising, but I've got Strep, or Mono, or Tonsilitis or something and can't honestly say I was up to form.  Plus I know you got to break soakers in.

I'll give it about 25 more games before I make any judgments.
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 11:47:57 AM »
Awesome Jim! I saw the blurb about your SASBA win on the Dynothane site. Sounds like it's working spectacularly for you. Unfortunately I'm one of those "mere mortals" mentioned above..... lol.
I had my Zr40 drilled up last weekend and got to practice with it on Sunday and use it for league on Tuesday night. I told my driller that I wanted to get some length and get a good hard continuation on the back-end. I have med speed/med revs and absolutely loved my Thing Returns and was looking for something similar with it being just a hair stronger. My driller went with a 75* layout for me which I know is strong. Pin ended up being directly under ring finger with a 2 3/4" pin. This thing gets about 2/3 of the way down the lane and makes an incredibly hard arcing motion with continuation. Hits extremely hard. Seems to keep the pins low. Pretty close to what I wanted, but it's even stronger than I thought it was going to be and knowing what I know about soaker coverstocks getting a bit stronger as they break in, that's what has me nervous. I'm a mid-190's average and ended up shooting 612 for the night so I'm not disappointed by any means, but I'm going to have to adjust the cover a bit I think. Maybe take it up to 1000/1200 with some polish...  If I could get it to go another couple of feet with that same hard finish, it would be devastating. It does seem to be a very consitent reaction though, and fairly forgiving on releases. I'll post a review after a couple more weeks of throwing it. I think with some minor adjustments, this thing could be a monster.....
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jimensminger

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2006, 12:14:13 PM »
ED,..we are all mere mortals,..here's what I would do first before you start getting too carried away with changing the cover. Take a green scotch brite pad and gently rub the surface all over by hand. Just barely take off some of the shine,..that should tone down the back some. I've done that with several balls, and they don't loose length, and the jump on the back is more controlable,..if ya don't like that then you can adjust accordingly,..suttle changes at first are best. jim

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2006, 12:30:22 PM »
This ball is truly amazing. When I wore down my own
track with my Epic Battle, I went to the Zr40 and get
tremendous predictability and the carry is phenomanal.
I thrown other balls with similar claims, but this ball
I believe has a chance to be one of the best of all
Dynothanes. I drilled it with pin above my ring by
about an inch up and an inch to the right with a strong
stack with a weighthole and it is everying I wanted in
a control powerful layout. Does recover well also. A
true keeper. Will be taking to the nationals this weekend
and will take advantage of the control/power combination.

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2006, 12:40:43 PM »
Jim, Thanks for your reply. It's not that I want to tone down the back-end per se.... I love the hard finish. And it's not that it's jumpy or uncontrollable, in fact it's just a sweet hard arcing motion... very controllable. I'd just like to get a bit more length down the lane before it does it's stuff. I certainly value your opinion and I've got nothing to lose by giving this a try... I was going to possibly change the cover anyway, so this can't hurt when I decide to go that route.
I'll definitely give it a few more games and then do the minor "experimenting" if it still warrants it....
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 03:07:18 PM »
I've had mine drilled for a little less than 2 weeks now.  I have put 3 sets on it ... two were good, one stunk up the joint.

I drilled the ball 5x4 with the 3" pin roughly over the ring finger.

Personally I find that this ball lopes off my hand compared to a lot of other equipment that I throw.  It's like a have to work to get it to rev up.  It definitely is not a skid snap ball, but is very strong off the dry.  So far I find that the carry is better than most, but I usually find that to be true with most new equipment.  

I have personally always thought that the Thing Returns is the best "carrying" ball that I have ever owned.  I wish that they wouldn't have discontinued it.
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 04:30:49 PM »
Does the Zr cover as many boards as the Au?

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2006, 06:35:33 PM »
Same conditions and drill...probably a couple boards weaker, but a lot more predictable.



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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2006, 11:07:13 AM »
Kong, I don't know what style/speed bowler you are, but the Soakers tend to get a little stronger after about the first 20 games or so... kind of a break-in period. If you don't have a ton of games on it, I'd say give it a few more practice sets and then start hitting the surface a bit if it's still not working for you.
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2006, 10:59:45 PM »
yeah definitely get some games on it...have to do that myself.  It should start to wake up...got about 6 on mine and it's gotten stronger every game.

Most soakers max somewhere around 20 games.
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2006, 11:23:45 PM »
Yep, I agree Pin Daddy. My Thing Returns was disappointing for the first 6-10 games or so.... then it turned into just a wonderful ball. I'm actually scared that my Zr will get stronger... it's strong enough for me now with the drilling I have. =)
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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2006, 11:05:51 AM »
All this talk about the covers need to be "broken in" .... has anyone heard of Scotch Brite?

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Re: THE Zr40
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2006, 11:44:09 AM »
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All this talk about the covers need to be "broken in" .... has anyone heard of Scotch Brite?


Not the way that Soaker coverstocks need to be "broken -in". Try one and you'll see what we mean. I think but am not 100% positive that it's more like "priming the pump": they need to start absorbing oil in order to dissipate the oil properly. Just a wild guess on my part.

I do know that roughing up the cover has a different effect on them than 15-25 games of bowling. After that much bowling, they start getting ... powerful.
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