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Greg T

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Angular One. First time out.*update*
« on: November 15, 2006, 11:07:32 AM »
Well, drilled up close to #1 layout, took it to the lanes, and commenced to throwing a dart. Lanes were oiled last night and had the high school practice on them and thats it. No league. The ball would start up about midlane and make a very slight and mellow curve to the pins. No hook, no angle. Acted pretty much like a Maxim. Spun the gloss off with 1000 grit and took it back to the lanes. A bit stronger in the midlane and no backend hook. Still mellow and smooth.

With the OOB I was standing 25, targeting 12, swing to about 6 or 7. With 1000 grit I was standing 30, targeting 15, out to 8. Not very impressive at all. I am going to reserve judgement until I throw on a fresh shot. We'll see, but for now, not a happy camper.





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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 07:11:51 PM »
Greg,

Sorry to hear that, especially with how long you have posted that you had to wait for it.  What exactly does the #1 layout look like?
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 07:19:28 PM »
For me it is pin above bridge, bomb at 40*, cg is right of grip and a weight hole 4.5" right of grip center and 1" up. Taken back to 3/4 oz positive. Rolls nice, revs up good, flares really well, and lays there like an egg. But, now that I think about it, I couldnt throw a Savage flip very well either. I think the common denominator here is a pearl coverstock.



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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 07:26:41 PM »
well... SELL IT TO ME!!
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 08:52:59 PM »
It's burning up.  Amazing isn't it.  Just throw the ball a tad bit slower.  For some reason, the ball does not like very much speed.  It seems that the ball grabs so much that it doesn't flare to fast. I had this same issue when I was bowling with it the other day.  I was trying to throw the ball a little faster, about 18 MPH (normally throw 16) and was playing 3 to 1 arrows and the ball was making a slight move in the dry.  Went back to my normal ball speed and let the ball rev in the oil a little long and I was able to play 5 or 6 arrow to the first arrow.  

The ball is plenty strong, you just have to let it rev up.
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 09:00:53 PM »
Its got to be burning up, mines drilled pretty weak a 5 1/4x5 with mb just right of the thumb and it out hooks my scorchin inferno.  The balls a beast
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 09:04:45 PM »
The bomb at 40 degrees with this fast spin time MB is going to make it spin up quick and hit like poo, unless you are Jason Couch.  For guys that want to see big angle out of these "super asymmetrical" balls that spin up under 6 seconds, I wouldn't recommend going any father than 70deg on the MB.

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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2006, 09:05:43 PM »
A guy up here is having the same problem no hook at all man that has to suck. Our Pro Shop dude is also getting alot of Ones and Big Ones cracking, which can mean only one thing:another crappy coverstock from Ebonite! I will stick with MoRich that stuff takes forever to die and they hit and carry better
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 09:19:47 PM »
Nope. I know burnup when i see it. The ball has to bite and flare to the max in order to burn up. This ball is certainly not burning up.




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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2006, 09:56:53 PM »
It's not that the ball is burning up, but the mass bias is spinning up to its Perferred Spin Axis so fast that it breaks tilt halfway down the lane and doesn't continue in the backend.  Imagine throwing a hamster ball and hooking it to the left but the hamster inside is running and spinning the wheel inside in the opposite direction.  Same type of effect.  I would either try a plug and redrill and go with the MB around 75 degrees with the same pin position.  Or sell it for 65% of what you paid for it and try something else.

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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »
Imagine throwing a hamster ball and hooking it to the left but the hamster inside is running and spinning the wheel inside in the opposite direction


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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 10:18:08 PM »
PITA would be Pissed!

Maybe we could do that for the 7-10 though. Roll it slowly to the ten and let the hampster roll left for the 7. I think Dj gave us a new idea for bowling ...
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 10:39:05 PM »
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I had the same experience you had Greg...  And as a matter of fact, i had the same experience with the No Mercy too!  They both hook set/stop/die when i throw them, no continuation at all.  Not sure on your game but i believe the problem is a low rev rate.  If you don't have alot of hand i think you'll be very disappointed with either of these two balls unless the down and in shot was what you were looking for, lol.  If you haven't already, pick up a Black Widow, it's the ball you thought you got when you got the Angular One.


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  `That aint it. My ball is still revving to beat hell as it enters the pindeck. There's no bite, not hook. It makes a very slow and deliberate curve to the pocket.



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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 10:42:38 PM »
I don't know much about core seperation, but could that be an issue in this case?
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Re: Angular One. First time out.*update*
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 10:51:30 PM »
No.