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bergerkos

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brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« on: January 27, 2009, 11:42:15 PM »
Hi, people. I don't know who can tell me best about my question, if it is not you.
I've got a stock of about 4o brand new first quality balls, undrilled etc. Among them are 9 Ebonite balls: Timberwolf PL-EXP = 5 balls and Seawolf = 4 balls. (there are also others, like Brunswick RHINO dark blue and some other ones).
 
I mean, all these are discontinued by the manufacturers, but I need to decide their real value for today. Talking about the EBONITE balls I just mentioned, they were posed as first quality balls rated from 109$ to 145$ , according to the data found at www.bowlingball.com.
But the question is, let alone the exact price: can they still be counted as equal with other first quality balls and be valued accordingly? Or maybe they could be of interest only to some long-time experienced bowlers?
Or, has their value generally decreased by now, say, because of some technology advancement? Or, maybe there are some other factors to consider?
 
I just wanna have the right angle of view, because I'm not a bowler myself and need to sell this stuff. But of course, it would be interesting to sell them according to their real value.

Would appreciate very much everyone's opinion. Thanks in advance.
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mrbowlingnut

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 10:27:01 AM »
They have some collector value but on today shots they are pretty much darts, I still have a Timberwolf Solid and Sea Wolf great dry lane balls on today's oil.
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 12:07:14 PM »
O-o. Does this mean, that for somebody who doesn't care about the collector value, those old balls are no better than today's average cheap house balls? Or is it actually worse??
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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 12:27:03 PM »
got any brunswick or columbia 300 balls. please send me info. i am interrested if it is some older stuff. elite and morich also has interrest
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charlest

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 12:31:25 PM »
quote:
O-o. Does this mean, that for somebody who doesn't care about the collector value, those old balls are no better than today's average cheap house balls? Or is it actually worse??


Not at all.
The Timberwolf solid was a heavy oil ball. I am surprised by mrbowlingnut, Barry's saying he uses it on dry lanes. Maybe he altered the cover or it is oil soaked (An oil soaked ball will hook much less than when it was new.). The Seawolf was for medium-light to medium oil.I can see it being for light to medium-light oil in today's environment. These balls are about 10 years old.

bergerkos,

I am not sure which Timberwolf has "PL-EXP" as part of its name. From where are you getting those letters?
There was a solid, a pearl, and a tour Timberwolf.
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=620
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=621
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=622

As for their saleability, it depends on how well someone liked them back when they were new. If you put them on Ebay, The Timberwolf, depending on which model you have, might go for $25 + shipping or it could go for $125 + shipping. It's hard to say. I knew, back then, a lot of people who LOVED the Timberwolf solid. The series wasn't around very long however.

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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 12:32:24 PM »
Eh, I'm so sorry people, but all this stuff, together with myself, is in Moscow Russia. If you are still interested -- there'll be no problem about it, sure thing:-)
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2009, 12:35:08 PM »
quote:

Not at all.


I am not sure which Timberwolf has "PL-EXP" as part of its name. From where are you getting those letters?
There was a solid, a pearl, and a tour Timberwolf.
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=620
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=621
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=622


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I found those letters on the cartoon box
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Spider Ball Bowler

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 12:41:10 PM »
I just sold a NIB Grey Wolf Pearl on eBay for about $80 shipped, so that would give you some kind of idea of the range you'd be looking at.

Basically if you get lucky and find someone who's been looking for one of these for a long time, you could get around the price of a newer ball today, but they won't sell for like $200 or $300 if that's what you're looking for.


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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 12:42:02 PM »
So then, it will basically depend on whether or not I find people here in Moscow, who will value these balls for what they are.
I didn't consider the option of shipping 'em, since shipping things out of Russia is a tricky thing. I have only been thinking about local buyers so far...
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 12:45:38 PM »
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I just sold a NIB Grey Wolf Pearl on eBay for about $80 shipped, so that would give you some kind of idea of the range you'd be looking at.

Basically if you get lucky and find someone who's been looking for one of these for a long time, you could get around the price of a newer ball today, but they won't sell for like $200 or $300 if that's what you're looking for.


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No, not $300 definitely just hated to give them away for $50, you know.
THanks for your answers!
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charlest

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »
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Eh, I'm so sorry people, but all this stuff, together with myself, is in Moscow Russia. If you are still interested -- there'll be no problem about it, sure thing:-)


The distance thing seems to be a slight problem.

Shipping to the US, where most but not all of us are would be prohibitive (more than the ball is worth). But there are people in Europe who could be interested.
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 01:47:18 PM »
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Eh, I'm so sorry people, but all this stuff, together with myself, is in Moscow Russia. If you are still interested -- there'll be no problem about it, sure thing:-)


The distance thing seems to be a slight problem.

Shipping to the US, where most but not all of us are would be prohibitive (more than the ball is worth). But there are people in Europe who could be interested.
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Ah, it's not so much about distance, it is more about the cost of the (Russian) customs formalities. This is what it's all about...
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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 02:38:34 PM »
The PRO model had a different color PIN.  I believe it was green color pin, the core and cover were much weaker then other.  Can't say they have much of a value since on the today's lane conditions all the ball would be considerd weak.  

Unless you're lucky enough to find a collector, you'll sit on them for awhile.  Find a price you're comfortable with and get rid of them because they don't increase in value with age.
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 02:43:25 PM »
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The PRO model had a different color PIN.  I believe it was green color pin, the core and cover were much weaker then other.  Can't say they have much of a value since on the today's lane conditions all the ball would be considerd weak.  

Unless you're lucky enough to find a collector, you'll sit on them for awhile.  Find a price you're comfortable with and get rid of them because they don't increase in value with age.

Just to put it straight: would it be wise enough, then, to give them away at a price of a house ball? Seeing, that the buyer will still have to drill them before using .(Suppose, I DON'T want to be "sittin' on them for awhile")
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bergerkos

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Re: brand new Ebonite Timberwolf PL-EXP
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 02:53:48 PM »
quote:

Just to put it straight: would it be wise enough, then, to give them away at a price of a house ball? Seeing, that the buyer will still have to drill them before using .(Suppose, I DON'T want to be "sittin' on them for awhile")

Sorry, looks like a stupid question on my part. It says: "the price I'm comfortable with". Sorry, people.
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