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Rebuilding my arsenal - Any advice welcomed.
« on: December 12, 2010, 04:21:07 AM »
Hello all, new to the forum, but visit the site whenever I try to purchase a new ball to see how the balls are shaping up...

I am thinking of rebuilding my arsenal, and unfortunately, I have never really been able to read the various ball specs (RG etc) and get a general idea of what a ball is supposed to do.  I was hoping to get an insight into the current product line to see what I should look into purchasing.  I apologize for the length of the post, but I figured more information about my game/history will make up for my lack of ball physics knowledge (I still have intentions of taking a workshop on this...just have to find one).

I don't know my exact layouts, such as where my PAP is, but I can say that I am what some people have called a power-tweener/stroker type player with medium-high speed and revs.  I typically average between 210-220, but of course have ups and downs.  I typically start out standing around 25-30 and playing 16-14 out to about 6-8, and migrating left and opening up the lane from there.  My travel schedule with work has unfortunately limited my bowling to the Friday night "fun" league for the last couple years, which most of the times isn't very fun for me because there is no money and not much competition in the league.  I truly believe this has caused my average to drop 5-10 pins, as I just sometimes can't get "into it" some weeks.  

I currently have a Mission, NVD, Evolve, and a Tornado.  The NVD is my go-to ball these days, as the house I mainly bowl at has apparently taken the middle of the lane out of play this year; playing in leads to early hook, but squaring up and moving right is not the correct line for my Mission (I run into some psuedo-wet/dry for some reason).  The Mission just doesn't seem to be able to push through the lighter amount of oil they are laying down in the middle this year...  Switching back to the NVD has seemed to be the correct choice as it plays this line much better.  My Evolve seems to be dead for some reason, as I have a hard time getting it to turn over anymore, and if it does, it's weak-10 all night.  I do manage my own surfaces with my personal ball spinner, so maybe I screwed this one up somehow, though I don't have this problem with the rest of my equipment.  I haven't thrown it in about a year, so maybe I should take it out once to see what it does.

So, now to the arsenal rebuilding.  Unfortunately, during last week's league session, something in the pit/ball return put 3 sizable gashes in my NVD, one of which is in the middle of the ball's track.  I have left it with the pro-shop to see if it can be recovered, but I am afraid that the cuts are so deep that enough surface of the ball will have to be taken off that the label/serial number not be there anymore.  If this is the case, I am thinking of buying a ball or two to replace the NVD/Evolve/Tornado portion of my arsenal.  I don't opportunities to bowl on any PBA/Sport patterns, so I think my Mission will be adequate for my most aggressive ball at this point.  I've been trying to decide between the Game On/Game Plan/Curve Ball/Hard Ball combinations.  I would probably want to purchase two balls, one layed out to hopefully replace the NVD as my go-to/medium strength ball and another layed out for dryer lanes.  I can provide more detail about my current layouts if that will help any of you suggest proper options, but I am currently travelling and won't be able to provide more info until middle/end of the week.

I greatly appreciate any of you that have read this far and thank you in advance for any advice you can provide!

Best regards,
Charles M.
West Palm Beach, FL.

 

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Re: Rebuilding my arsenal - Any advice welcomed.
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 07:00:51 PM »
have you considered anything other than ebonite? storm has some great pieces out right now
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 07:47:06 AM »
Track is putting out the best equipment IMHO right now!
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 12:20:42 PM »
Don't judge the Out Burst on yesterday's poor performance by Barnes...

It's really a good ball...
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Re: Rebuilding my arsenal - Any advice welcomed.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:23:23 PM »
MOTIV? Pretty good line of stuff from top to bottom...IMHO

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 12:41:44 PM »
IMHO I think Ebonite(Hammer, and Columbia included) has the highest turn over rate for their product lines. Meaning, they discontinue balls and come out with other ones before they have time to hit the market.

I have never had a positive reaction from an Ebo branded ball. I am loving what I have with my Motiv equipment. I have had so much success with them. A strong durable product. Some of the balls I have had for almost 2 seasons now still have the same strength and reaction as the day I got them. Give them a shot.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 12:48:07 PM »
I'm a pretty big fan of Hammer's Raw and Vibe series.  Reasonably priced and meets most league bowler's needs.

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 12:58:44 PM »
I am rebuilding my arsenal also and I have switch to the Track Line. Track has some of the best equipment out there and the People at track is on the right track getting the best equipment out there for bowlers. I will also say the Outburst is a hell of a ball in the Columbia Line. If I was you I would pick in choose from all the ebonite brands and build my arsenal from there.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 02:08:12 PM »
If you're looking to stay Ebonite. Just from what I've seen, a Mission 2.0/Mission/Vital Sign/Tornado combo might work well for you. That would cover a pretty broad spectrum.

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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 09:10:23 AM »
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I've been trying to decide between the Game On/Game Plan/Curve Ball/Hard Ball combinations.  I would probably want to purchase two balls, one layed out to hopefully replace the NVD as my go-to/medium strength ball and another layed out for dryer lanes.  I can provide more detail about my current layouts if that will help any of you suggest proper options, but I am currently travelling and won't be able to provide more info until middle/end of the week.

I greatly appreciate any of you that have read this far and thank you in advance for any advice you can provide!


WOW, long winded intro, WELCOME to the board.  If you don't know your PAP/drillings, can you provide pics and/or description as where the pin/mb/x-holes are on each piece?
If you wants to rebuild around your mission in the EBO line, the mission is a great benchmark ball.
I would pick up the game plan, its a great all around medium ball, it's a solid so it will be much easier to change surfaces and will be able to handle a more variety of oil patterns.  Drill this pin down around 5" off PAP, cg out, x-hole near the PAP.
I would choose the Hard Ball over the Curve Ball simply because the gb 10.7 is a phenomenal coverstock.  Drill it pin up around 5.5" from pap, cg near palm, no x-hole.
My drilling recomendations are pending the drillings on your mission, nvd and evolve.
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Re: Rebuilding my arsenal - Any advice welcomed.
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 11:21:08 AM »
Based on your current status, I would say an Onyx Vibe and an Outburst would be an excellent combo.
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