Author Topic: Whats so good about Ebonite? (Read 10879 times)

Gixer · « **on:** January 17, 2009, 09:01:18 PM »

To all the people who throw Ebonite exclusively, what is it about Ebonite that keeps you interested in their equipment? I read alot of negative posts regarding Ebonite more so than any other company. I was just wondering because its time for me to get another ball and I always seem to migrate towards purchasing an Ebonite ball. Last year I did however purchase a Hammer BWP but I didn't like it. I swore to myself that I would stay away from Ebonite and go with either Storm or Brunswick but here I am getting ready to purchase a Gamebreaker and Playmaker. Why can't I stay away from Ebonite? Does anybody else have this problem?

nextbowler · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:28:54 AM »

Last month I was at a very large demo day that featured Ebonite, Columbia,
Hammer and Track--all Ebonite umbrella companies. There were a total of
20 different balls to throw. I threw 4 different Ebonite balls and not one
of them matched up well for me. Several other balls worked great. Even
though all were owned by the same company, Ebonite was by far the worst. I
have not had an Ebonite ball for several years as at one time 4 of them died
on me at about 60 games and could not be brought back. At that time I said
I would not buy Ebonite for awhile. Still will not.

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:29:15 AM »

On the Womens series 3 of the 7 titles were won by women throwing Ebonite Family equipment. There are reasons why yoiu don't see as many exempt men throwing Ebonite. There are fewer people on Ebonite family exempt staff than what some other companies have. Ebonite does not have as much in the Incentive area as some others do.

Edited on 1/19/2009 10:29 AM

Necromancer · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:29:15 AM »

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Nercomancer wrote: "Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent."

proof please, I want to see where EBO never does any research.

If they do do research, then that is even a bigger insult to them as a company LOL.

Anyways, if Ebonite is listening, your best bet is to use Differentiation as your company strategy for the time being. In order to do this, stop creating new junk, but re-release your best balls. I guarantee those that even buy balls - those that are into bowling, will scoop them up with a quickness.

Re-release the Matrix series and V2 series and watch your sales climb to new heights.

Your NV series was a disaster. I remember Patrick Allen using the NV ball when it came out. LOL at what he bowls with now. LOL at how many times he is on TV now too.

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:44:56 AM »

PA was on the show with a Vibe that is still in the Ebonite Family. The V2 core and cover has already been used in numerous combinations of other balls. Do some research. How can you say the NV line was a complete disaster, Tommy and Couch tore up the tour with this line. And lets look at some Ebo Staff members Couch and Jones both are qualified for the HOF and both have been feared players on Tour. Doug Kent shortly after Ebo bought Hammer he Wins 2 Majors in one year and Player of the Year Honors and is also qualified for HOF. C300 Barnes though I don't care for him personally He is qualified for HOF and has won POY honors. I think that says enough. They don't put out any more equipment as a brand than any other company. Big B puts out more than anyone else.

SleepOnIce · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:45:52 AM »

You do know that the V2 core is in 3 balls Ebonite is currently producing, right? (obv referring to Necro)
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mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:47:04 AM »

No he wouldn't because he is too busy making up new things about himself too FIGJAM about to actually look at facts.

Necromancer · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2009, 11:22:39 AM »

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No he wouldn't because he is too busy making up new things about himself too FIGJAM about to actually look at facts.

Actually I do know but I am not talking about the game and play makers. Those use two different balls to make 1. I want the original V2's. Not the new ones with that 10.7 coverstock. Trust me I know more about Ebonite than you could ever imagine. I used to bowl with nothing but Ebonite. Then I became smart and switched to the champs - Storm.

P.S. I gave my V2 Afterburner away for $5. That's how much I feel their balls are worth hehe.!!

mainzer · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:00:30 PM »

Necro if were going to use champs equipment then you should go and use MoRich!

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Necromancer · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:14:25 PM »

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Necro if were going to use champs equipment then you should go and use MoRich!
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So I can leave 8-10's?

Razr · « **Reply #25 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:21:39 PM »

Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..

NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..

their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..

so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:26:35 PM »

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Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..

NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..

their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..

so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..

IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.

Razr · « **Reply #27 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:36:45 PM »

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Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..

NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..

their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..

so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..

IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.

True, but I'm not bashing too much on the NV line because they were still good rolling balls, but I found them to be pretty condition specific. They were hook monsters at first, and my old Total NV still was, but it just didn't hit right and rolled weird.. the NVS was the same, and the complete NV was the most impressive until it died on me..didn't even bother with the NVD..and there are still others I'm sure who would disagree about that line and others who would agree.

so you see, I just personally was never impressed with any of the NV's for more then a few weeks..but for the lower stuff like raid, clash, bash, current V2's I would choose over most.

And it's also true that all companies have their mess up's and only some balls seem to work for certain styles..because the entire widow line aside from the original was also worthless for me, every single one flipped and rolled out..for me that is..and actually almost every hammer ball won't work for me anymore either now a days..but I'm not bashing them because I've seen others score very well with them..

Nothing against ebonite or anything but I feel as if all of their higher performance line balls are a joke for me. I throw what works though, not the name/brand name engraved on the ball..

Edited on 1/19/2009 2:39 PM

Necromancer · « **Reply #28 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:45:32 PM »

quote:
quote:
quote:
Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..

NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..

their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..

so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..

IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.

True, but I'm not bashing too much on the NV line because they were still good rolling balls, but I found them to be pretty condition specific. They were hook monsters at first, and my old Total NV still was, but it just didn't hit right and rolled weird.. the NVS was the same, and the complete NV was the most impressive until it died on me..didn't even bother with the NVD..and there are still others I'm sure who would disagree about that line and others who would agree.

so you see, I just personally was never impressed with any of the NV's for more then a few weeks..but for the lower stuff like raid, clash, bash, current V2's I would choose over most.

And it's also true that all companies have their mess up's and only some balls seem to work for certain styles..because the entire widow line aside from the original was also worthless for me, every single one flipped and rolled out..for me that is..and actually almost every hammer ball won't work for me anymore either now a days..but I'm not bashing them because I've seen others score very well with them..

Nothing against ebonite or anything but I feel as if all of their higher performance line balls are a joke for me. I throw what works though, not the name/brand name engraved on the ball..

Edited on 1/19/2009 2:39 PM

Agreed. Also as for the NV line, I have been to some tournaments where they would give the ball with the tournament fee and many people would use the NV's during the tournament. Keep in mind, the oil was very heavy. The NV's, thrown by some high rev players, would just slide out and many went into the gutter several times - no exaggeration. I was at the time interested in the NV's as well. I then heard similar stuff from other bowlers about their dissastifaction with the NV's.

As for Widow's, I somewhat agree which is why I didn't get the other Widow's. 2 guys in my league have the pearl version and it just hits awful.

When comparing today's top balls by company, I would place Ebonite near last. Their playmaker and gamebreaker might be decent but only because they are using their past successful balls.

Here are companies that I think are better than Ebonite's best:

-Storm
-Rotogrip
-Hammer
-Brunswick

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Somewhere down the end Ebonite is near C300.

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:19:26 PM »

Necro, what experience do you have with Columbia to but them at the bottom of your list?

DP3 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:39:15 PM »

He doesn't have much experience with anything except for running his mouth on bowling related topics he knows nothing about. It's pretty amusing. Everyday I have something to LMAO at while at work because it's so off base from reality and he believes every bit of it.
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