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Gixer

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Whats so good about Ebonite?
« on: January 17, 2009, 09:01:18 PM »
To all the people who throw Ebonite exclusively, what is it about Ebonite that keeps you interested in their equipment? I read alot of negative posts regarding Ebonite more so than any other company. I was just wondering because its time for me to get another ball and I always seem to migrate towards purchasing an Ebonite ball. Last year I did however purchase a Hammer BWP but I didn't like it. I swore to myself that I would stay away from Ebonite and go with either Storm or Brunswick but here I am getting ready to purchase a Gamebreaker and Playmaker. Why can't I stay away from Ebonite? Does anybody else have this problem?

 

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 08:41:14 AM »
I have been a Ebonite basher for years and I still am to some extent. For some reasom unknown to me I thought I'd give the Pin Slasher a try. I shinned it up and has yet to leave my bag!!! The ball rolls better that just about everything else I have or have owned. I'm really impressed with it and I'm now considering the Magic once released. Still not to thrilled with there low end stuff just yet.

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 08:46:46 AM »
The bigger you are, the more bashing you get. Some don't like Ebonite because they think they are the big bully on the block. Some think their coverstocks absorb oil to fast and result in balls that require more maintenance. People like to use what works. I primarily use Ebonite because it works for me and if "it ain't broke, don't fix it". All manufactures make some good and not so good equipment depending on a bowler matching up. So use whatever works for you. Saying you prefer one manufacture to another or didn't match up or care for a particular ball is one thing. Bashing, putting down, or saying a particular company sucks, seems like a complete waste of energy to me.
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 10:26:42 AM »
Other than the original V2 Solid & V2 Pearl of which I loved both, I have never been an Ebonite Fan.

However, I purchased both the Gamemaker & Playmaker a little over 3 months ago and love them both. This makes me want to think that the V2 Core must match up to my style really well as it seems to give me the looks that works best for me.
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 10:31:47 AM »
Love the bite and the venom and the new acid hammer.  Will be getting the new magic soon. Had a great run with the momentum. Recently got the virtual gravity. Don't care what brand it is as long as it works.

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 01:38:13 PM »
Yeah, I have the same problem. Except I can't throw other companies.

Sometimes most people are not willing to adopt change to their game so they automatically blame the company. No one is perfect. Some peoples games do not roll well for certain companies.

I pretty much through all hammer before I signed with ebonite, and it was not a good transition. But I got through it. I had to do some different layouts then im use to, change up surface etc.




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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 02:07:31 PM »
I never matched up with the green vibe and havent bought a "new" hammer since I still love my faball hammers and the big blue pearl isnt too bad. I have found I match up best with Big Bs lightbulb core found in the rhinos and avalanches and I match up well with my gravity shifts core and of course my vanguard cores have been wonderful all other cores havent gave me that much to care for.

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 02:41:14 PM »
Ebonite has sucked overall with except to Matrix, V2, and One series.  Actually in the One series, the only ball that is good is the original.  Click my sig for pics of what happens to the One though after you strike a lot - ball split in half and is now sniffing the roses in my mom's yard (I dump balls in the yard for decoration LOL).

Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent.

P.S. Entire NV series sucks except the limited edition original NV which sells for $500 on bowlingball.com LOL.

P.S.S. Name the last time Ebonite won on tour.  Even Tommy Jones couldn't win with the One Pearl. LOL.
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 03:10:36 PM »
Is their anything good about Ebonite?
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2009, 06:50:49 PM »
V2 core
GB 10.7 cover
their benchmark and some higher performance balls are very good. ex. gamerbreaker, the one, total nv, pin slasher,
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 08:10:27 AM »
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Ebonite has sucked overall with except to Matrix, V2, and One series.  Actually in the One series, the only ball that is good is the original.  Click my sig for pics of what happens to the One though after you strike a lot - ball split in half and is now sniffing the roses in my mom's yard (I dump balls in the yard for decoration LOL).

Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent.

P.S. Entire NV series sucks except the limited edition original NV which sells for $500 on bowlingball.com LOL.

P.S.S. Name the last time Ebonite won on tour.  Even Tommy Jones couldn't win with the One Pearl. LOL.
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H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix

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This must mean that Ebo is the best company on the market.

mmcfarland300

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 08:17:05 AM »
Ebo Total NV = Awesome Length and good back end
Ebo Angular One = Good length ridiculous back end
Ebo GameBreaker = Good Midlane great carry huge back end move
C300 Reurgence = Great Heavy Oiler
C300 Noize = Good midlane move solid continuation and finish
Hammer The Sauce = Great Midlane good back end move

These are the balls I have thrown from the Ebo plant and I haven't had reaction loss nor have I beed disappointed with them.  Some have required additional maintenance to keep clean due to the "soaker" covers but they work well for me.

Necromancer

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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 08:51:03 AM »
Make fun of me all you want.  But, in contrast to many people that rag on companies, I have owned several balls and have the proof in my sig pics.  I have never ever had a ball split in half like The One did.  And no I don't leave my stuff in bad weather, mistreat it, etc.  In fact The One had no scratches at all LOL.  It just split.

Also, I'm not alone.  Many people in leagues and tournaments I have seen are going away from Ebonite.  They know what I know.  They produce way too many balls with little to no research on how to improve.  Basically they are making the same stuff but with different colors.  

If we are going by current today, Ebonite hasn't won on TV in awhile.
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H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo, Ebonite Predator
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 08:58:08 AM »
Which has more to do with the people throwing them than the balls themselves. I'm sure if anyone on staff thought the balls were hurting their chance at winning they would torch their contract and go with what works.

However, you having one ball split in half definitely means the entire company is terrible. Hell, they should just go bankrupt and hand the company over to you.

To which I'm sure you'll reply "I'd do a better job researching than they do" and we'll all reply "please stfu".
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Re: Whats so good about Ebonite?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 09:15:21 AM »
Nercomancer wrote:  "Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent."

proof please, I want to see where EBO never does any research.