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bragbowlin

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Dead widow what should i do
« on: February 19, 2007, 02:08:54 AM »
My brother brought his widow in november got it drilled aggressive and he didnt really like using it because he wasnt used to it he finally brought it back out and that ball would hit hard and break into the pocket with ease now its pretty much dead it wont break in the dry even if we try to throw it midland it hits weak now what can we do to get it back.
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bowlingmaniac017

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 10:13:58 AM »
You might want to take it to the proshop as well and get it taken down to 180 grit to open the pores of the ball more and then try the soaking method.
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 10:50:10 AM »
Same thing just happened to me - so, brought it to the pro shop, he did an oil extraction and sanded it back to OOB - just like new.  Cost $25
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 12:36:47 PM »
The water treatment works wonders.  I did the same thing before last week league and my ball reacted even better than new.  I love my Black Widow
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 12:58:58 PM »
DIDO ON THE HOT WATER TREATMENT!
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 01:52:54 PM »
I just really can't see how the oil dry thing will work that great, I mean I work at a Diesel Mechanic shop and have unlimited access to as much oil dry as i need.

I will have to evaluate this one for myself.

Now when I use the hot water treatment, the ball comes back to about 85% in my opinion, depending on how many times you soak it over and over, to make sure all the oil is out, but that seems like it isn't such a good idea for the bowling ball. This is plastisizer is a interesting conecept.
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 02:56:28 PM »
so you say the best way to revamp your ball is by using the oil dry method. Is it as effective as the Hot water bath?
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BrunsMike

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 03:06:13 PM »
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All Reactive and  Reactive based Particle covered ball's have Plastisizer in the molecular structure of the ball's cover, this is the compound that makes absorbtion and oil disbursement possible, if Plastisizer was not in the cover's molecular structure, your ball would soak everything up and turn into an instant rolling rock and only be good for 20 games or less! Ebonite has done extensive research into Ball Death which is Not a ball Loaded with oil, it is in fact a ball that has clogged pores via Plastisizer and they concluded that using any kind of heat weather it be Dry or Wet, reduces the total life of an Ebonite/Hammer bowling ball! Hammer & Ebonite believe this, Brunswick believes the opposite that Heat is the best way to re-activate a ball, because these 2 ball companies have their own chemist's, the Formula's may require different methods of reactivation and do not apply to all ball's!
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 05:14:08 PM »
Keep uss posted!
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Medichal

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 05:56:11 PM »
Try Denatured alcohol this cleaner gets all the dirt and oil out of the balls coverstock and brings back the tackyness back to the ball. I also have a BW I have about 65 games on it after bowling I take a damp cloth with DA rub it into the coverstock you will see how much dirt comes off the BW keep repeating this process until you see no more dirt and oil grime on your cloth. Also the tackyness will come back to the coverstock. Ball will hook like you had it before.
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 06:03:39 PM »
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Try Denatured alcohol this cleaner gets all the dirt and oil out of the balls coverstock and brings back the tackyness back to the ball. I also have a BW I have about 65 games on it after bowling I take a damp cloth with DA rub it into the coverstock you will see how much dirt comes off the BW keep repeating this process until you see no more dirt and oil grime on your cloth. Also the tackyness will come back to the coverstock. Ball will hook like you had it before.


Just like acetone, denatured alcohol is not acceptable for use at anytime.  The only acceptable form of alcohol is Isoproyl (rubbing) Alcohol.
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Medichal

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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 06:20:13 PM »
YOur not using it at the lanes the question was that the bw was not hooking and was also lacking hitting power mostly all pro shops use Da to clean their equiptment. I never said to use it at the alley I been cleaning my equiptment at home after bowling no crime in this process.
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Re: Dead widow what should i do
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2007, 08:39:11 PM »
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YOur not using it at the lanes the question was that the bw was not hooking and was also lacking hitting power mostly all pro shops use Da to clean their equiptment. I never said to use it at the alley I been cleaning my equiptment at home after bowling no crime in this process.


http://www.bowl.com/specs/ballCleaner.aspx

Reading the rules it clearly says "Not acceptable at any time."  The rules don't really say whether the "not acceptable" list is okay to use before or after competition.  

There are several bowling ball products listed on the "not acceptable" list, such as Ultra Clean - Tenth Frame, so it is possible that interpret that it is okay to use before or after competition.

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