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lane1bowler2009

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No Mercy Pearl
« on: June 23, 2008, 06:17:49 PM »
they keep making the widow bowling balls over and over again when are they gonna make a no mercy pearl or something i think the widow is getting out of hand
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 04:14:38 AM »
I believe the No Mercy line has been discontinued!

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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 05:13:57 AM »
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I believe the No Mercy line has been discontinued!

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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 06:43:18 AM »
why are you complaining about remaking the Widows when lane1 has used the same core for about 4 years?

To my understanding, all the Widows made so far have had their own characteristics.
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 06:54:20 AM »
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why are you complaining about remaking the Widows when lane1 has used the same core for about 4 years?

To my understanding, all the Widows made so far have had their own characteristics.
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it is more about the "gone for good" of the HART core I guess
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 06:58:47 AM »
As long as people keep buying bowling balls in the black widow line, Hammer will still produce them.  The Black Widows are a big seller in my area.

I'm just wondering if Hammer will be developing a new core and coverstock to replace the No Mercy line.
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 09:14:10 AM »
The WIDOW line sells!  It's really that simple!  The NM was a great bowling ball but the entire concept of the core became a disaster because many drillers didn't follow the drill instructions correctly.  

I feel Hammer should of marked the actual MB along with the HART.  There would of been a lot less confusion when it came to drilling that ball.

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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2008, 09:19:19 AM »
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The WIDOW line sells!  It's really that simple!  The NM was a great bowling ball but the entire concept of the core became a disaster because many drillers didn't follow the drill instructions correctly.  

I feel Hammer should of marked the actual MB along with the HART.  There would of been a lot less confusion when it came to drilling that ball.


which absolutly don't understand... I mean how stupid simple can a bowling ball be made?

it is so simple to get a good reaction out of the ball from what I see here and the NM was and is very popular here.

DANG! I was considering getting one for myself just for testing it out!
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »
I think the No Mercies are gone because they are basically quite close to the BWs (condistion-wise), and because the HART concept failed - not technically, but in the field.

The idea of having a ball set up in a very simple manner for Joe Bowler "to hook a ton" is close to reality, I am afraid. Just put something what looks loke a label leverage drilling on a HART core, and there you go... But the confusion this concept aroused, as well as the fact that the NMs did not appear to last that long, plus the proximity of the newer, stronger BW introductions, made them IMO obsolete.
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 09:56:13 AM »
Dizzy,

R U serious the NM didnt last long but the Widow did.  I have seen alot of Widows "die out" even with proper treatment.  I have NOT seen that same problem with the NM.  I get what you guys are saying about the drilling problems because some people don't know what the hell their doing.

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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 11:01:51 AM »
the reactions between the widows and Nm were somewhat close but the No Mercy carried better and was more controllable for me over my widow.the cover on both widow and NM needed alot of attention as well.it was not a problem for me as I own my own spinner and bucket.the end of the NM line for me was dissapointing but I just moved on to other stuff,my new LevRg is on it's way and I'm currently enjoying my Blast Zone and Twisted Furry and a few Track balls I like.I Have not been impressed with the Ebo covers and will basicly keep to the Brunswick line of covers.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 11:25:36 AM »
The No Mercy's and the Widows had different reactions. Each Widow has its own reaction (which in another thread it was said they are all the same, which clearly they are not) that may be similar but, for different volumes of oil. Same thing goes for when comparing the Mercy Line and Widow Line. I thought the Mercy's were for the Super High Volume ultra gushed slick juiced up lane conditions, then once a line was burnt, it was Widow Time.

Just because the Mercy line has gone, doesn't necessarily mean the core concept is gone, nor the covers, new equipment is always made using past cores and cover technology.

The Gas Mask was used well before the Widow series, but the core cover combinations they have created for the widow line have made them the best line on the market.

I would have liked to see a No Mercy Pearl, to have that super heavy roll on a pearl ball would have been awesome, but somewhere down the road I am sure there will be some sort of line above the Widow, but like my buddy Jeremy said, if you cant find something in our line-up to attack each and every lane condition out there, it truly does not exist!


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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 08:30:32 AM »
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The WIDOW line sells!  It's really that simple!  The NM was a great bowling ball but the entire concept of the core became a disaster because many drillers didn't follow the drill instructions correctly.  

I feel Hammer should of marked the actual MB along with the HART.  There would of been a lot less confusion when it came to drilling that ball.


which absolutly don't understand... I mean how stupid simple can a bowling ball be made?

it is so simple to get a good reaction out of the ball from what I see here and the NM was and is very popular here.

DANG! I was considering getting one for myself just for testing it out!
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For me the ball was money!  I really liked the original NM.  

A lot of drillers didn't take a bowlers PAP and or ball track location into consideration when drilling the NM.  I totally believe this is what lead to many being unhappy with this ball.

If the HART is not far enough into the bowlers track, they will see a smoother, less potent backend reaction.  If a right handed, low track bowler has the HART 1" left of thumb but his ball track starts at 2" left of thumb, then he's not going to get the strong backend reaction he's looking for.  Many drillers just don't understand that.  Now since I have a high ball track and flare very close to the thumb and fingers, having the HART 1" left of thumb on my ball would give me that strong backend reaction.  Same HART location, two different reactions for two different bowlers.  

I'm not even going into the pin placement on the NM's.  That's another area where many ball drillers screwed up.

A lot of drillers just didn't take the time to understand the ball and it's core.



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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 08:52:08 AM »
that'S what I do not understand with the NM... it is so plain simple with this concept..

put the Pin into a strong position and the HArt on the oil track... and you get a good reaction!
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Re: No Mercy Pearl
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 09:17:22 AM »
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that'S what I do not understand with the NM... it is so plain simple with this concept..

put the Pin into a strong position and the HArt on the oil track... and you get a good reaction!
Simple!
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Well it's really not much more complicated than that but many drillers screwed it up.  

Aside from the HART placement mess up the drillers also didn't take into account for the pin placement.  The NM has a very strong core and placing the pin any closer than 4.5" from the bowlers pap is really not advised if your wanting a strong backend reaction.  I know a bowler that had the pin on his NM at about 3.5" from pap.  This ball used up most of it's energy in the mid-lane and was weak on the backend.  

So basically keep the pin at least 4.5" from pap and HART in the ball track and your good to go!