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chitown

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NO MERCY questions
« on: March 14, 2007, 04:22:22 PM »
For those that have the NO MERCY, which layout did you use?

I'm just curious that's why i'm making this post.  I love the NO MERCY.  This ball is fantastic!

I have 2 of them and both have the #6 layout.  I just have them at different cover preps.  One is at 4000 grit and the other 1000 grit.

I'm thinking of buying a 3rd NO MERCY and putting one of the control layouts on it.  This ball is absolutely amazing!
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 12:24:04 AM »
Got one earlier in the week...I have no real feedback to offer as of yet.
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 12:34:55 AM »
I wanted to see how it did in my hands.....and it hasn't shown me much. I am playing with the surface a bit to see if I can get better reaction with a different surface prep.

I will post feedback once I get somes games on it.

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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 12:40:31 AM »
I have 2 NO MERCY's now but had a 3rd one which I traded into the pro shop.  The one I traded in was drilled with the #1 layout but with the HART 3" left of thumb.  That ball was just too dam strong for me.

Sixcranker, I see this ball being versatile and able to use it on many different conditions.  Of course hand position changes need to be made to allow it to be used on different conditions.

This ball matches up with me better than any bowling ball i've ever owned!
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 12:54:02 AM »
Owned one.  Condition specific basic opinion from others I see roll it.  Decent ball Black Widow more overall ball.
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 12:58:38 AM »
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Owned one.  Condition specific basic opinion from others I see roll it.  Decent ball Black Widow more overall ball.
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Scott, i'm surprised that your didn't work out for you.  I know we have talked about this before.  I have owned 2 BW's and feel the NM is much stronger overall.  The BW has a big back end but doesn't have the mid-lane that the NM has.


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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2007, 01:03:57 AM »
chi,

I am NOT dissing Hammer.  I believe Hammer BW is more overall a ball and can be used on different conditions.  NM is more specific.....probably why you don't see them on tour much.  More a THS walled up beaucoup oil in mids ball.  Works great on that which is why Hammer released it for the THB.  Least that's my opinion.
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 01:28:17 AM »
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I am NOT dissing Hammer.  I believe Hammer BW is more overall a ball and can be used on different conditions.  NM is more specific.....probably why you don't see them on tour much.  More a THS walled up beaucoup oil in mids ball.  Works great on that which is why Hammer released it for the THB.  Least that's my opinion.
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Scott I don't care if you dis Hammer.  I'm not brand loyal, I just like the few Hammers I have.

I have had 2 BW's and currently have 2 NM's.  When I had my BW's I had one of my NM's.  I threw them both side by side.  Both had the same pin to pap distance.

I rolled both of these balls on the same lane conditions.  The BW has less mid-lane and a big back end.  The NM has a strong mid-lane and big back end. My NM was a lot more controllable than my BW.  On the difficult patterns my NM outperformed the BW.  The BW was harder to control on the back end.  



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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 02:52:43 AM »
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What drilling did you put on it, Carl?



Drilling #1.

I am probably going to redrill it with the pin further from PAP and keep the "heart" in about the same position. I think the surface adjustment will help though. I will post more when I have had a chance to throw it more.

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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 07:05:48 AM »
mine is drilled with 41/2" pin to pap with the hart 21/2" left of thumb,4000 grit,ball is a scoreing machine!I've posted some great games on everthing from heavy flat patterns to easy wall shot or when the right side breaks down.I don't have to put much effort in the release to make mine work,just relax and bowl.the only complaint is I can't use it once the heads give way,the ball will just flat ten me to death.that's when the widow comes out but it is harder to controll on spoty backends,if I had only put the pin under my grip line I think the widow would be better.the no mercy is my favorite ball in a long,long time.I hope to shoot a 300 so I can place it in the hall of fame along with my el nino 2k and my army bomb
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 05:09:21 PM »
I used the #1 drilling.  See my review, just the truth according to my experience.  The NM is a great ball if you can maintain the reaction, although it definitely needs oil up front to work well, obviously.  

The ball is very high maintenance, and the cover tracks up very quickly, which is apparently fine for many.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with dropping that kind of loot on a ball that wears out so quickly.  Carry and overall hook are nowhere near when I got the ball.  My money will better spent in the future on balls that will last longer, and therefore be used more in practice, giving me more confidence when it matters.  Three such balls that I have owned are the Hammer Big Deal, Legends NS2, and Legends World Class particle. I have bowled hundreds of games more on my World Class than my No Mercy, and it's reaction is much closer to new than my No Mercy, with much less maintenance.

For a new ball, I was looking at a TNV, how can you not after watching Couch and Allen throwing them on TV?  But after what I hear about Ebonite's recent product's short lives, I am instantly turned off. For my next med-heavy oil ball, I'll be looking at the Legends Black Pearl or LM Terminator.  From my experience, using a class resins and going coverstock  solid to the core DOES make a difference, and with all their technological breakthroughs, Ebonite/Hammer would do well to try to build a more durable product.
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 11:10:40 PM »
mine is layed out as close to #1 as he could get it mine is not alighned.But i will say I am just now learning how to properly throw it and it is showing promise
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 11:19:47 PM »
if you are losing or have lost reaction with the no mercy just bake it at 150 to get all the oil out or in a pinch take a green scratch pad and some ball cleaner and scuff it up ,by hand,and watch the transformation. I was bowling sunday on the usbc pattern .It was after a league but the shot was still pretty consistent. I couldnt get the ball to wrinkle.So naturally i am thinking ,yeah oil ball sure so much for that. Then i thought about the scratch pad and the ball woke up like rip van winkle. Went from not getting to the pocket to almost being to strong. I didnt have any swing room ,but the ball deffinetley turned the corner when i played it up the boards.
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 11:24:28 PM »
Drilled mine w/ PIN to PAP of 4 3/4" (See my review), HART in first flare ring (about 2" right of thumb).  Ended up looking like between a #1 & #6 drill.  Changed the cover from 4000 Abralon to a 1500 Scotch-Brite sand to match up with my local conditions better.  The ball is amazing on fresh oil, but I do have to chase it left (lefty) through transition to carrydown and tighten the line up or it will be rope 7-pins the rest of the night.  As long as you don't whip the speed on it and keep a good crisp follow through, this ball will never disappoint you!  I have had mine for a few months and have shot honor scores of 290 (Sport Shot), 298, 824 (Last Tuesday) along with winning scratch singles and all events in one of my association tournaments last month.  The only problem with this ball is maintenance.  You have to keep it clean regularly and give it a quick resurface job probably once a month (depending on how much you bowl).  As long as you don't mind the regular cleaning sessions, this ball is awesome.  If you do not like to regularly maintain your equipment this ball will not work well for you IMHO.  Good luck!!!
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Re: NO MERCY questions
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 01:07:18 AM »
Thanks for the post reply's.  

I really like the NO MERCY.  For me this ball is money!  I have two of them right now and there the only balls I want to roll.  I know that's not always wise but the ball is versatile as long as there some oil.

I do agree that this ball needs a lot of maintenance.  This is not a big deal to me because I have a ball spinner and take good care of my equipment.  The performance of the NO MERCY more than makes up for the high maintenance.


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