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jhutch769

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Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« on: August 23, 2006, 06:08:16 AM »
I am about to finish up my video of the Pain vs Doom, are there any suggestions people want to see.  So far I have shots straight up 7, ten and out, standing twenty and out and then every five boards left. then a few at the break point.  I will add any additional shots people want to see (All shots are on a fresh THS)

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The video is done.  Here is the URL

http://media.putfile.com/Raw-Hammer-Comp

It is large, 15 mb or so (just over 6 minutes long), I do have an 11 mb version I can upload instead if people want..  There is something like 40 different shots I think it is about 6 min long.  I have shots from inside 4th arrow...  Standing on 20,25,27,30,35...  playing over ten and out, up seven, etc..  Shots at the breakpoint, from an elevated camera position, from an angled position..  The different lines should allow you to see the strength of the pain cover to the doom, some shots the pain recovers a bit more than the doom while the doom skids on the BP just a touch more...    Also the shots from up 7 were supposed to show how quickly the ball takes off, not intended to get strikes...  I think I should have left those shots out, but you let me know..

The balls are thrown on Fresh THS on two ends of the house (1&2 are highest scoring pair, 15&16 lowest scoring)...  Balls are both 4 x 3 1/2 with hole on PAP OOB surface..  Pain might be 1/8 longer....

THERE ARE EXPLICIT LYRICS IN ONE OF THE SONGS if anyone is offended by that!  (Second half of video)  

Please let me know what you think, no sugar coating...

Edited on 8/24/2006 3:29 AM

 

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 02:26:04 PM »
Sounds like good plan. Start rolling!
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2006, 02:27:01 PM »
I already have the videos, I just need to edit it and upload it.  But if anyone wants to see any differnet shots, I will throw them tonight.

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 06:11:20 PM »
Wow dude, awesome, it soundsd like a great video just add some sweet music, and upload. I'm looking forward to it as I haven't yet but soon will be getting a Pain to go with my Doom.
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 03:36:15 AM »
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 04:18:22 AM »
U have a great physical form, but thing I'd like to point out is that u slide through your release. that would one thing I would work on is plant-hit-realease. other than that Nice Vid.
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 12:20:01 PM »
I will try to change my sole/heel combo back...  I was on super tacky approaches a few weeks ago...

Thank you for the advice/comments..

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 12:48:47 PM »
I don't think he was talking about planting coming to a complete stop then tearing the cover off the ball/ripping through it..  If that is what he meant, that is not what I intended to do..  I just planned on stopping a bit faster, I do slide through the shot once in a while and fall off to the right or fall back on my heal..

Also, I can get the doom to work, I just wasn't making quality shots....

My BP was very inconsistent.

Here is a link to the Doom vs The One I made a few months ago..

http://media.putfile.com/Doom-Raw-Hammer--The-One

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2006, 04:01:12 AM »
I used ULEAD Video Editor 9 to do my videos..

And I would not normally play over ten.  There is too much recovery for that ball and too much early read.  I would probably play stand 27 over 15 to about 7...  Then when that starts hooking too much or too early, I will switch to the Doom and move in a few boards..

I threw those shots to let everyone see the different angles and reactions off the ball.. I was not throwing for a strike on every ball but I was trying to get to the pocket on the inside angles..

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 06:21:37 AM »
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yeah, lets plant and hit the piss out of the ball so you can rip up your knee. the whole point is to slide, so what he slides through his release? there's nothing wrong with that, the ball is already gone.

ignore the stupid comment, there is absolutely no reason to plant and rip on the ball unless you want to destroy your physical game.

nice vid. looks like the Pain was the ball for the condition, though i do like what i've seen out of the Doom around here.

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one thing I would work on is plant-hit-realease

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maybe you shouldn't post such ignorant comments because I wasn't talking about ripping the ball. and yes, being too early and sliding through your shot can cause your ball to get too quick off your hand and blow right through your breakpoint and boom, washout. and when I said "stop-hit-release" i was meaning that in a millisec interval which would be TIMED correctly. GG..
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 01:17:44 PM »
nive vid bro, pain ripped the shot apart.
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 01:36:12 PM »
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M.E.T.H.O.D.   Man.  Your timing & release remind me of PDW.  Great video.  You make me want to buy a Hammer.
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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 01:46:55 PM »
Actually we are not that high scoring of a house.  High avg was like 220, 5 300's, 796 and 794 High series..  We just got a new lane machine at the middle of last season, hopefully scores go up this year.

I have all my numbers on the computer at work.  But I think my speed is 17 mph and RPM is 350-400..  I am not 100% sure, but that is close...

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 04:36:38 PM »
Very nice vid Hutch.  I already have the Doom, and was thinking about getting the Pain to go over and from your vid I can tell the pain would fit over exctly where I would want it to.  I also talked a friend of mine into buying the Pain although he hasn't gotten to throw it yet, he watched the video and his eyes lit up.  Just what he was looking for as well.  

Also, you were absolutely right to throw those balls down 7 in your comparison it's an apples to apples comparison of how early the ball starts to take off.  Not everyone will have equal ball speeds or revs, nor will play the same lines but it is easy to tell when each ball starts to grab the lane and by that they can determine which ball would best suit what they are looking for.  

Great job on the vid, but more so on the actual ball comparison.

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Re: Raw Hammer Pain vs Raw Hammer Doom **Video DONE**
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 07:52:58 PM »
My RPM's avg from 5 test shots    405
My total speed from 5 shots       16.97
My speed at the pins from 5 shots 15.68


These numbers were taken from Ebonite Bowlers MAP, place a piece of tape from PAP to over finger holes and use the RPM Calculator..  These were readings from a few months ago...