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Nicanor

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There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« on: July 18, 2010, 07:15:15 AM »
Took the Seige, Mission and the Plague to the lanes today to compare the three.  All three have been drilled by the same driller abd drilled very close.

I know the Seige is going to work better in heavier oil.  After a game with the Seige reading the lane pretty well I changed to the Mission. Did not read the lane very well at all and the Plague went almost dead staright.  After the second game the Seige was too much ball so I changed to the Mission.  The rea was perfect.  The Plague still got through the break point to easy and didn't make the read.  After the third game The Mission was coming to lfe veryu strong and then I switched to the Plague. The Plague now came off the break point very well and cary was tremendous.

So I'm not saying the Plague is a bad ball, but just not a heavy oil ball.  The Plague does get through the heads very easily and when the back ends dried out or we at least took some oil off the lane, the Plague came to life.

Tomorrow I'll bowl at a center with less/shorter oil and see how the Plague performs there.

The ball has a place in my bag and has great potential.  I think its going to fit below my Mission but above my Rapid Fire and Megaton Hybrid.

Comments welcome.


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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 03:21:31 PM »
What were you bowling on pattern wise ???????

crusher267658

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 03:30:43 PM »
Maybe the lanes were kinda dry and the Plague was rolling out.
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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 03:43:59 PM »
I''m more interested in the thumb
Any chance it started coming to life after a few games to wake-up the surface?
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charlest

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 04:21:47 PM »
I believe from reviews and seeing people use them:
The Siege is a heavy ball, with its stock surface for the average revs (300), average ball speed bowler.
The Mission is a medium-heavy oil ball, with the same provisos as the Siege.

The Plague's intent seems to be to emulate the Virtual Gravity's general ball response, an almost flip type of backend on medium-heavy oil conditions. Both BTM and BJI have given it pretty decent reviews, with both sort of agreeing on the backend, but BTM giving it stronger overall hooking (medium-heavy oil) capabilities and BJI saying it was more for medium oil. I have not seen the Plague in anyone's hand's yet, Barry.

For whatever it's worth, keep in mind that the Plague is part pearl, part solid, somewhat like the Rogue Cell. (Not a 50/50 split)

So you could be putting a marker in the sand, so to speak for its overall hook capabilities.
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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 04:39:16 PM »
I would like to agree with Nicanor. I was expecting alot more out of this ball. Its not the heavy oil ball that I was anticipating. As said earlier, I am not saying it wont be a good ball, but just not what I was hoping for when I bought it. Still prefer my Jacked for oil over this ball. With that said, I still like the products that Hammer has been putting out lately and will not let my disappointment in this ball keep me from buying more Hammer products.

Nicanor

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 04:48:53 PM »
This was not meant to be a slam on the ball by any means.  I threw the Seige, a heavy oil ball and there was enough oil to use the Seige the first game easily.  I know some might think the Plague was burning up.  This was the Sunday morning shot oil 8-8 and rather long.  Easy enough scoring shot if you start with a heavy oil ball and get away from it soon enough.

Switched to the Mission, not polished, then to the Plague.  The Plague just didn''t handle the oil well.  But once we dried out the shot about 2 games for 3 bowlers using oil sucking balls, the Plague came to life the fourth game.  So the Plague wasn''t rolling out or burning up.  The power off the break point was exceptional and carry was very good.  Just too easy to throw on heavier oil and not read the lanes.

Raiderh2oboy,

Called yesterday and left a phone message.  The ball fit perfectly with the larger insert.  Never could use the smaller insert.  If you read this, I''d like to get a larger insert made to start out with.  Also I need about 4 "It" recepticles to put in some other bowling balls.  The one that did fit needed one piece of white take and the thumb release was perfect.

CharlesT,

I think your right on with your assessment of the three bowling balls I was throwing.  The ball description for the Plague was just heavy oil ball.  The ball will probably be better suited for medium lane conditions.  I know I could adjust the surface, but no need, the place in my bag the Plague will fit in, is an empty spot that I was going to try and fill with another ball.  I''ll probably try the Prodigy in the bag between the Seige and Mission.

Thanks for the feedback.
Barry


Edited on 7/18/2010 4:52 PM
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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 04:49:38 PM »
did you get a full game on it first?

First time I threw my grind it went straight up ten. after 5 frames I was 5 deeper and then 5 more shots I was 2-3 more deeper. So after 1 game I was at least 7 boards more then brand new.


the plague isnt rated for heavy oil, its rated medium-heavy to heavy. at least thats what the ad sheet says and i know the website has been wrong before. not that it would make that much difference.
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Nicanor

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 05:03:52 PM »
This is the info off the Hammer website.  I agree though that it doesn't make a difference.  I do think that I need to work a little track into the ball, but the ball gets through the heads so easily I don't see it being a heavy oil ball.   A ball that gets through the heads this easy and reatins energy and isn't flippy is a ball to have in my bag.

STYLE 029744-178XX

COLOR Purple/Red/Gold

COVERSTOCK Level 2 Reactive

FACTORY FINISH 500/1000/2000 Abralon®

AVAILABLE WEIGHTS 12-16#

BEST LANE CONDITION Heavy Oil

HOOK 21

DRILLING INSTRUCTIONS

AD SHEET

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RG / DIFFERENTIAL / MASS BIAS
#12 RG (2.60) Diff (.039)

#13 RG (2.53) Diff (.055)

#14 RG (2.49) Diff (.056)

#15 RG (2.50) Diff (.055)

#16 RG (2.51) Diff (.053)

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icewall

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 05:06:44 PM »
the other thing I will say is that some people match up to certain coverstocks / companies.

for example: you could tell me all you want that a said storm ball hooks in heavy oil but for me I simply dont match up and they all go too long. yet I picked up a blue vibe sanded down to 4000 no polish and it out hooked my rogue cell, evolve, and troad pearl. why? who knows... guess I just match up with hammer?

maybe just doesnt hook as much for you for some reason.
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Nicanor

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 05:46:38 PM »
icewall,  

I agree 100 %.  My release helps the ball get down the lane, someone elses release might make the ball read the lane earlier.


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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 06:16:02 PM »
I guess the problem that I am having is that on the website it said "greatest backend in Hammer history" and I have had other Hammer balls that were alot stronger on the backend.

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Re: There is no way the Plague is a heavy oil ball
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 08:41:18 AM »
First of all you have to compare apple to apple.  The Seige is an Upper tier high performance ball as is the Mission.  The Plague is a high performance ball in the Mid line area of price.  If you compare these ball per their price range you would have to compare the Jigsaw Corner witht the others. Now do your test and see what you get.