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qstick777

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Violent Reactive
« on: July 26, 2007, 08:19:02 AM »
I read that this is the same as GBV 10.7.  Any truth to that?
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BallsDeep

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Re: Violent Reactive
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 06:45:40 PM »
There is no such thing as the GBV 10.7.  There  is the GB 10.7, the GB 11.2, the GBV 12.1 and the GBV 12.7.  None of these is the same thing as the violent reactive to my knowledge.
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Re: Violent Reactive
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 06:55:16 PM »
Same general concept, but not chemically the same. Ebonite's covers are different formulas from Hammers although they're under the same umbrella.
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qstick777

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Re: Violent Reactive
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 05:41:29 PM »

Okay.  I thought I had read that Hammer and Ebonite were kept separate, but then I ran across this:

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=168974&ForumID=3&CategoryID=2

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Traumabill
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1. The professional did not have a MB marked. It was introduced as a 'symmetrical' asymmetrical, meaning low to no MB...

2. The Black Widow has the same cover as Ebonite's One. The companies (now all four of them + Dyno overseas) share the same R & D people, but Brand Managers of the separate dvisions (and their respective staff) are still involved with product development and design.

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Sorry for the confusion about the naming convention.  I see that on Ebonite's site they list the covers as:

The One: GB 10.7
The Big One: GB 11.2
The Infinite One: GB 12.1
The Angular One: GBV 12.7 Pearl

I was confused because under the Angular One they say:

quote:
One ball is all you need. Pushing our revolutionary GBV coverstock to a series high 12.7,


Silly me, I figured if it was a SERIES HIGH of 12.7 then it must be the same coverstock as the previous balls in the series.  I guess it was both revolutionary and a series high since it was the only ball with the GBV coverstock.

^^^ Sarcasm  ^^^  

I just figured it was many of the inconsistencies found on Ebonite's site like the drilling instructions for the NV and One series balls all point to the same drill sheet and referencing the core as Sciox Symmetrical even though the individual ball info lists them as:

The One, The Big One, and The Angular One: Centrex Symmetrical Mass Bias
The Infinite One:  Inverted Centrex Symmetrical Mass Bias
Total NV:  Spike Symmetrical Mass Bias
NVS:   Spike Symmetrical Mass Bias, Version 1A


Other balls using same/similar covers:

Raid: GBV 12.7 ----- but it's not pearl
Gamebreaker: GB 10.7
SR300: GB 10.7
RXS300: GB 11.2

quote:

GB stands for Good Business the nickname that this coverstock received during our extensive testing.


I guess GBV stands for Good Business Value???
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Re: Violent Reactive
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 06:21:06 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised that the Hammer balls are all using the GB or GBV covers.  They just give them a different name and call it a day.   This is not a bad thing by any means.  If you like the BW then you have the option of getting the same cover with a different core as in the ONE.  Of course this is just an example and i'm not sure if the ONE and BW share the same cover.


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BallsDeep

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Re: Violent Reactive
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 10:42:02 AM »
The V in GBV actually stands for versitile.  Though the literature that is under the antique ball section of ebonite's site says that the infinite one coverstock is only the gb 12.1, the logo on the ball says that it is GBV 12.1 (as well as the release description).  The Versitile portion of the name was added when ebonite claimed that the surface of the GBV was more responsive to surface adjustments than the GB.  The covers on these balls are different. Though they may share the same base, they are quite different and you can see this difference on the lanes.  Changing an oil absorbtion rating is not the same thing as changing the out of box surface grit, it is actually a change to the composition of the coverstock.

As far as drilling instructions go, I would expect the drilling instructions of the NV and One series to be the same thought the cores are different.  If you know anything about drilling it is that the drilling process for symmetrical equipment across lines and even companies is basically the same, as it is when considering asymetrical equipment.  The only major variation when considering asymetrical equipment is what axes the asymetry is on.  A core like the Brunswick asymetrical core is elongated along two, while the vanguard core from morich is actually along three.  These two lines will have some variation.  I personally feel as though the Zone line has more of the properties of symmetrical equipment while the vanguard core must be drilled soley along asymetrical standards.

One more thing the Black widow does NOT have the same cover as the one.  That is a fact.
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