Author Topic: Which handles the most oil...Hawg Wild, Road Hawg or Black Widow? (Read 3624 times)

cnimsk · « **on:** June 28, 2006, 08:53:57 AM »

Which of these handles the most oil...with out of box finish that is....the Hawg Wild, Road Hawg or Black Widow?

Chuck

Laybzz74 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2006, 04:55:11 PM »

Hawg Zilla !!!
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jkiser01 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:08:10 PM »

Of the 3 listed in box finish, I would say the Road Hawg, but I beleive if you took the Black Widow down to a 1000 grit, it would handle more oil than the Road hawg.

I have personally used all those balls and has the last user stated, the Hawg-Zilla will handle more oil than all of them..
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cnimsk · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:24:38 PM »

Is the Hawg Zilla about equal to the Hawg in it's oil handling capabilities?

Chuck

Laybzz74 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:35:10 PM »

The ad in this month's BTM mag states that Hawg Zilla is the strongest ...
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jkiser01 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:40:16 PM »

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Is the Hawg Zilla about equal to the Hawg in it's oil handling capabilities?

Chuck

The hawg zilla is much stronger in oil than the regular hawg.. The cover on the hawg zilla is one of the new oil absorbing reactive covers. The regular hawg cover is just cut throat..
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chitown · « **Reply #6 on:** June 28, 2006, 06:44:32 PM »

What a lot of bowlers should realize is the cover grits on different balls. For example, If all 3 balls mentioned had the same surface grit which ball would handle the most oil? It would probably be very close between them.

The ball surface is the key to oil handling capabilities. I have a few Dooms. Even though this ball is a peralized ball it can still handle med oil very well. Now I took this balls cover down to 600 grit. This is a comparable surface grit to many of the heavy oil balls out there. Well the Doom will work on heavy oil at 600 grit. Of course the ball layout ment to roll early would also make this ball work even better.

Now there are some covers that will work better than others on heavy oil. Just like the post reply from the guy that was talking about the Road Hawg.

Just remember most med oil balls on the market today can work on heavy oil if drilled correctly and dulled to a low grit.

jkiser01 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 28, 2006, 07:09:28 PM »

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What a lot of bowlers should realize is the cover grits on different balls. For example, If all 3 balls mentioned had the same surface grit which ball would handle the most oil? It would probably be very close between them.

The ball surface is the key to oil handling capabilities. I have a few Dooms. Even though this ball is a peralized ball it can still handle med oil very well. Now I took this balls cover down to 600 grit. This is a comparable surface grit to many of the heavy oil balls out there. Well the Doom will work on heavy oil at 600 grit. Of course the ball layout ment to roll early would also make this ball work even better.

Now there are some covers that will work better than others on heavy oil. Just like the post reply from the guy that was talking about the Road Hawg.

Just remember most med oil balls on the market today can work on heavy oil if drilled correctly and dulled to a low grit.

sorry chitown, I disagree with you. I know you love the regular doom, but there is no way a ball such as a regular doom can be dulled and compared to the hawg zilla or black widow as far as handling heavy oil.. The core and coverstock on both of those balls is much stronger then the doom core and cover..

I have also never seen a pearlized ball dulled to handle heavy oil. Why do that? The ball is designed for medium oil, so use it for what its meant for.. Thats the whole purpose of building an arsenal of balls with different covers that will handle different amounts of oil..

Yes if you have to dull the doom when at a tourny or something because of the oil amount and thats the only ball you have, thats OK. But to dull it and use it as your heavy oil ball, I don't agree with that, sorry..
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cnimsk · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2006, 07:10:11 PM »

Lorok....I know Paul has one...it's a 15 and a half pounder. I use 14's. Secondly, I'm not likely to spend two hundred dollars on a new bowling ball right now. I was just curious about which Hammer handled the most oil. Just gathering data, so to speak.

Chuck

chitown · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2006, 11:58:40 PM »

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What a lot of bowlers should realize is the cover grits on different balls. For example, If all 3 balls mentioned had the same surface grit which ball would handle the most oil? It would probably be very close between them.

The ball surface is the key to oil handling capabilities. I have a few Dooms. Even though this ball is a peralized ball it can still handle med oil very well. Now I took this balls cover down to 600 grit. This is a comparable surface grit to many of the heavy oil balls out there. Well the Doom will work on heavy oil at 600 grit. Of course the ball layout ment to roll early would also make this ball work even better.

Now there are some covers that will work better than others on heavy oil. Just like the post reply from the guy that was talking about the Road Hawg.

Just remember most med oil balls on the market today can work on heavy oil if drilled correctly and dulled to a low grit.

sorry chitown, I disagree with you. I know you love the regular doom, but there is no way a ball such as a regular doom can be dulled and compared to the hawg zilla or black widow as far as handling heavy oil.. The core and coverstock on both of those balls is much stronger then the doom core and cover..

I have also never seen a pearlized ball dulled to handle heavy oil. Why do that? The ball is designed for medium oil, so use it for what its meant for.. Thats the whole purpose of building an arsenal of balls with different covers that will handle different amounts of oil..

Yes if you have to dull the doom when at a tourny or something because of the oil amount and thats the only ball you have, thats OK. But to dull it and use it as your heavy oil ball, I don't agree with that, sorry..
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First bud I don't mind that you disagree with me. Hey that's what these forums are for.

First let me say a few things on why I feel the way I do.

You say that you have never seen a pearlized ball dulled to handle heavy oil. That maybe the case for you but I have Doom that can handle heavy oil with out any problems. This Doom is drilled pin leverage and the cg kicked to about 2" from my pap. The cover on this ball is 800 grit. This ball will handle heavy oil great. Now of course it wont handle the same as a particle ball but it get's the job done.

Next, you said why dull a pearlized ball? You also said I should use a pearlized ball for what it's meant for. This I don't understand what you mean. If you read most manufactures sites they state that bowling balls covers can be adjusted (polished or dulled) to acheive the perfect reaction for the bowler and the lane conditions there bowling on. Just because the Doom comes from the factory as a pearlized ball doesn't mean that it's condition specific. At least not in my eyes.

Building an arsenal is about having balls to handle diffeent amounts of oil and also gives different reaction shapes to achieve the best carry. That's what I have done. The only thing about my arsenal is it's all the same ball just different covers and layouts.

I built an entire arsenal of Dooms because I love the way the ball rolls and hits. I changed the covers to handle different amounts of oil and to give me different reaction shapes. I can handle every condition I will ever see with these 4 Dooms. The only problem I ever have had with my Doom arsenal is the xtreme toasted conditions. Even on those I could still use the Doom but I had to play real deep and change my hand position.

I did come across a league condition last season the was xtreme heavy oil and the Doom could not handle it. Guess what though? I had a Track Animal in my bag and that ball couldn't handle it ethier. There isn't any ball on the market that would work on that condition. Other than that I have not had a problem with my Doom covering heavy oil.

jkiser01 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2006, 07:46:18 AM »

chitown,

Glad thats working out for you but I personally would never have 4 of the same ball regardless how much I liked it.. To many other great balls out there to pick just one.. But thats just me..

Once again, I just don't see a sanded down pearlized doom working on true heavy oil. The doom core is not that strong, but I have no reason not to believe you so good luck with the ball..
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El Capitán · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2006, 08:20:06 AM »

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Which of these handles the most oil...with out of box finish that is....

He said out of box. Anyone want to answer his question?
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jkiser01 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2006, 08:25:38 AM »

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Which of these handles the most oil...with out of box finish that is....

He said out of box. Anyone want to answer his question?
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The Striking King.
More Spares = 200 avg.
More Spares Plus Strikes = 220 avg.

I already answered it, the Road Hawg will handle more oil in box finish than the other 2 balls listed. The Black Widow is second and the Hawg Wild 3rd.
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Pincrusher · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2006, 01:07:57 PM »

Out of those options I agree with jkiser01. But if the lanes breakdown pretty fast then I would reverse the list to say Hawg Wild 1st, Black Widow 2nd, Road Hawg 3rd, because the Hawg Wild is (I think) the most versatile when it comes to medium to medium-Heavy to Heavy Lanes. I have a Hawg Wild and it's very strange that on Heavy Lanes it wants to hook, and medium it wants to be "tame". I bowl in 2 houses 1 heavy and 1 medium and My Hawg Wild is great there! So it is according to how fast the lanes change and If the pattern is long or short.
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2006, 01:14:49 PM »

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Which of these handles the most oil...with out of box finish that is....

He said out of box. Anyone want to answer his question?
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The Striking King.
More Spares = 200 avg.
More Spares Plus Strikes = 220 avg.

I already answered it, the Road Hawg will handle more oil in box finish than the other 2 balls listed. The Black Widow is second and the Hawg Wild 3rd.
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i'm going to have to disagree on the Road Hawg being for heavy oil. my brother was on a sport shot using his Road Hawg, and the ball didn't move off anything. i had him try an inside line on the lane didn't move. i had him try an outside line and it came back but not as much as i thought it would. i had him try these lines because he couldnt figure out the oil, well he ended up doing bad anyways because he gets so mad when he bowls
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Author Topic: Which handles the most oil...Hawg Wild, Road Hawg or Black Widow? (Read 3624 times)

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