Author Topic: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1 (Read 10245 times)

Nicanor · « **on:** March 17, 2008, 11:42:57 AM »

Lane 1 filled the balance hole and drilled a new balance hole in the strangest place. Strange to me at least. The balance hole was at the 5 O'clock position to the thumb almost opposite of the thumb 180 around the ball. If you drilled straight through the thumb to the other side of the ball, the balance hole would be about 1 inch right of that hole.

I threw the ball and my bowtie was about 1 1/2 inches from the balance hole and the flare rings almost cleared the hole and most times did, barely. But thats ok.The first few shots had the ball going staright, almost dead straight. Then I threw the Cell and the Attitude Shift and they were covering the back end very well. Pin is up on the Cell and Attitude Shift and below the ring finger on the Buzzbomb. All surfaces ar about the same.

I noticed that i was trying to help the Buzzbomb hook and coming around the ball a little too far. So I worked a little bit and got a deeper knee bend stayed under the ball and threw through the ball with fingers and the ball came to life. Every time I came around the ball it skidded out and did almost nothing. Stay behind the ball with a little side roll and fingers and the ball was vrey strong. Never as strong as the Cell or Attitude Shift, but I believe its because of the difference in drilling.

I eventually tried a six step approach for the last 15 minutes with some friends that was video taping it on their camera and showed me the footage, and the Buzzbomb was reacting very strong on every shot. I wish they knew how to send me the video, but they don't and I'm not smart enough either. But even in the six step if I didn't get the knee bend and topped the ball the reaction was very limited.

So I'm not saying the ball itself is a dud with this configeration, but very difficult to use. I know if I work on being more consistant with my release, this ball will work very well for me.

Spell check is currently not working, sorry.

--------------------
Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Edited on 3/17/2008 7:43 PM

Edited on 3/18/2008 9:48 AM

Edited on 3/18/2008 9:51 AM

triggerman · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:41:00 PM »

gets popcorn ready

time for the "he said she said!!"
--------------------
www.bowlingballexchange.com

Triggerman

F.O.S Loud, F.O.S. Proud

Lane #1 Baby

pop_1 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2008, 03:55:52 PM »

quote:
gets popcorn ready

time for the "he said she said!!"
--------------------
www.bowlingballexchange.com

Triggerman

F.O.S Loud, F.O.S. Proud

Lane #1 Baby

I know, I was just curious.

strikealot · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2008, 05:23:35 PM »

maybe the plug was filled with kool-aid...thus changing the ball reaction...making the customer still unhappy...especially by hearing a clunk clunk halfway down the lane..
--------------------
Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now!
myspace profile...
http://www.myspace.com/chad__gordon

http://

GEAUX TIGERS!!! 2 TIME BCS CHAMPS BABY!!!

~<:-)

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2008, 05:54:51 PM »

i am sick of hearing about all of this. I think the people who are saying it hits like a wet noodle or doesn't hook at all or very little have a got a bad batch, because mine and others on here hooks alot.

Mine is the so called bad drill LABEL, that I got used from someone saying it reacted to strong for them. Well I have now compared it to evry other ball that i own. the two strongest being Big Bang drilled 3 3/4x 4 the Buzzbomb drilled 4 1/4 x 5 1/2, and hawgzilla drilled 5.5x 5 it compared to the Big Bang the buzzbomb has just as much midlane roll with more backend snap, they are about even. And the big bang is a strong ball was my current oiler.

I hear that people with the label drill never got any sort of reaction. Even on light oil. Well I bowl on heavier than anything I have ever bowled on oil Pattern that is 45ft in length, if you don't believeme you could come see for urself, and my ball hooks just like I was wanting. I was worried when I bought it becasue it was right at the time people were commenting on the label balls not hooking worth a darn. But to my surprise it hooked just as much as my current strong ball. So I am happy, and got anotyher one to drill stronger since my weak drilled one hooks as much as my strong drilled medium load particle ball.

I think all of you that are having these strange complications either have a problem with the way the ball was made which changed or made for a faulty ball. Or you are just completely not on the right condition. I have seen formyself what it can do with the so called crap drill. Oh and this is my first Lane#1 ball other than a Liberator, and i ain't on no wagon, I am still to this day a huge lanemasters/Legends fan. But now I have found another company I like just as much.
--------------------

Arsenal:
-Big Bang
-Buzz
-Hawgzilla
-Spare Tire

FOR SALE:
Faball Black Hammer 16lb

Nicanor · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:33:55 PM »

First K & K sold and drilled this ball for me initally and offered to take it back before Ritchie asked me to sent the ball to him. I went with sending back to lane 1 because I've had such a great working relationship with Ritchie for years. No slam on K & K.

I don't know if CG matters, but without a question the placement of this balance hole made a big difference in this ball.

With my bowtie about an 1 1/2 away from the balance hole, most of time time I missed the balance hole completely but barely. Only once in a while I would hear then see that I rolled over the balance hole once.

I agreed to send it to Ritchie, he offered the ball back to me and I didn't know I was getting a free ball at the time. He just wanted to see the ball, weigh it and look at my track. When I talked to him he said I had way too much bottom weight (3/4) and offered to plug the balance hole and find out where the best place was for the balance hole should be. He only asked that I threw the ball and gave it a fair assesment with the new balance hole. Thjat is why I am still working with this particular Buzzbomb.

But as some mentioned, if I wsa able to throw the Cell and Attitude shift with no problem getting the ball to hook, crush the pocket and be consistant, what was it about the Buzzbomb that made it look as though I was very inconsistant.

I will have a little time Thursday in a different house to throw the Buzzbomb and hope I get a more consistant read there. I seen the potential in the ball, its just way too stressful to throw the Buzzbomb especially when my other equipment is working so well.

I appreciate the feedback and the conversation.

--------------------
Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #21 on:** March 18, 2008, 06:46:03 PM »

Well i guess Nicanor you can see how thrilled K & K is with Richie and the way he really treats his pro shop with there ebay auctions. I highly doubt you will ever see them sell another Lane 1 ball ever again, i would call Phil or Ken and find out what truly happened over your deal with Richie from them.

302efi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 18, 2008, 09:08:43 PM »

Not to feed to this, but theres a lefty on my Monday night team that got one of these. Hes a lefty avgs 208 (on the sheet now) and hes been having a hell of time with it.

Seems as if the ball has very little recovery at best. Different angles, lines ect...seems like nothing works. Hes had the shop shine and dull the cover a few times, but it all seems to do little.

Now I'm not a Lane #1 hater, I own many Buzzsaws and have a couple of honor scores and my high set with them...I really prefer the older Brunwick covered Lane #1 gear, but thats another topic...

The Dirty Bomb & HDB is always in my bag....
--------------------

quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"

Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...

Edited on 3/18/2008 9:09 PM

J_Mac · « **Reply #23 on:** March 18, 2008, 09:29:16 PM »

Has anyone noted how soft this coverstock is?
--------------------
"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Doug Sterner · « **Reply #24 on:** March 18, 2008, 10:04:55 PM »

It seems to me that people are having to think a bit outside the box with layouts due to the strength of this core and coverstock.

I, of course, have no empirical proof to support this but with all of the press it is getting and seeing what works and doesnt it seems pretty clear...

Lane 1 balls don't drill like other balls.....I've said it for years and this proves it again.
--------------------
Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
http://dougsproshop@aol.com
www.dougsproshop.net
Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling

Slopsurprise · « **Reply #25 on:** March 18, 2008, 10:30:48 PM »

I didnt notice what drilling was on this ball. Some iddiot didnt drill a low RG and high Diff ball stacked leverage again did they?

That is a perfect formula for the ball to do nothing after 45 ft.

nowski1381 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2008, 11:01:08 PM »

My layout is the most aggressive layout and I'm having the same problems that Nicanor had...talked to Richie and mine is going back tomorrow...

quote:
I have two friends who shot 4 300's between them in the first week of owning this ball! IMO it's not the balls fault.

It sounds like your driller totally missed the drill on this one. Or he doesnt know your game very well. I would have your axis located, then drill the most agressive layout. Then adjust the cover to fit your specific lane condition.

If this sounds too much... I'll give you 50 bucks for it!!!
--------------------
" used balls will travel "

Nicanor · « **Reply #27 on:** March 19, 2008, 12:28:19 AM »

I didn't have any kind of deal with Lane 1 or Ritchie except he wanted to see the ball since I was having so much problems with the ball. I thought this was the way to go because it didn't cost me anything except shipping to lane 1 and also didn't cost K & K anything. K & K offered to buy the ball back, replace the ball whatever. They were working very hard to make the customer happy. I think K & K is an exceptional Pro Shop. I have purchased other bowling balls from K & K since the Buzzbomb transaction.

So other then K & K being a little concerned that Ritchie said it was the drilling that killed the ball reaction, I hope this didn't cause the owners of K & K to think Lane 1 or even I ws trying to say anything about their ball driller. The ball driller at K & K is outstanding.

--------------------
Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 19, 2008, 08:01:36 AM »

I knew my post would cause somewhat of a stir, and believe it or not it was the mezz who responded to it, which did not shock me.

DO not call me a 15 year old for one, i am 21, no i am no bowling ball reaction expert, but I am no idiot, and have a good deal of knowledge in the bowling world.

Mezz i see your counting is a little off, I have a 4 ball arsenal, including spare ball, not 6 like you proclaimed. And the house i bowl at isn't your typical walled house shot, that i see evrywhere else I bowl. WOuld average in the 200's anywhere else in my area.

And what i know got you all huffy puffy was this "me and other people's balls hooks alot" yea pretty vague of me to say that, and could understand you saying it sounded childish. But what I was saying is their is such thing as getting lemons and that is what i think you people with Poor reactions have got, something bad with the mixes or just complete mismatch for style. I and others om here and around my area's balls react like we were hoping it would.

So don't try to call me an idiot because i typed a post, that was long overdue on mypart.
--------------------

Arsenal:
-Big Bang
-Buzz
-Hawgzilla
-Spare Tire

FOR SALE:
Faball Black Hammer 16lb

triggerman · « **Reply #29 on:** March 19, 2008, 10:03:26 AM »

quote:
Why is it that guys that sell and push Lane # 1 balls
all their people never have a problem?

Our league condition is fairly wet with tight backends and this person does not get a ton of revs.

I would say his rev rate is about 225 rpm and it DOES hit like a wet sock!!!

Edited on 3/18/2008 3:52 PM

Not saying everyone of my customers have been happey with the layouts, brickguy221 had issues with a layout we provided him and lane #1 took care of it, promptly I may add. If we put a drill on and the customer is unhappy we work very hard to correct it for them. not every ball lane #1 makes is spectacular for everyone. what I conveyed in my post was clearly "OUR" experience. This ball drilled too strongly is dead, its like taking a gun and pulling the trigger. I have a simple stack drill on mine, and it works very well on the condition I want it on, in box it outhooks most anything, withthe 1500 wetsand and polish, it is very long and weakish on the backend, but with 1500 wetsand and no polish, its money, hang it inside it holds, bounce it off the wall outside and its huge. oh on edit, I ended up putting a balance hole, 1.25 dia x .75 deep 1" down my val from pap and made this ball a much better reacting ball (IE it was over on side wieght and fighting itself, was quite visible down lane as you could see it wiggle and want to turn then it would just face the 3 pin)

hows is your friends drilled and whats his speed at the pins

wet plus tight backends equals very little hook

--------------------
www.bowlingballexchange.com

Triggerman

F.O.S Loud, F.O.S. Proud

Lane #1 Baby

Edited on 3/19/2008 10:08 AM

Edited on 3/19/2008 10:14 AM

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #30 on:** March 19, 2008, 11:36:53 AM »

K & K is very concerned and they took this situation to heart very strongly, they have high regards for you Barry do not worry about that. They are worried that you are happy and wish to continue servicing your bowling needs, i am not working for them or anything just stating probably too much in the first place.

There is a good reason for the Buzzbombs being listed with no MAP's on ebay, that is between Richie and them nothing else i pmed you what happened but it is not my place to open air it here.

So call Phil or Ken and i am sure they will tell you details better than i even know, they want to make sure you are happy and if there is anything they can do to help you with the next buzzbomb if you wish to drill it.

Author Topic: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1 (Read 10245 times)

Nicanor

Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

triggerman

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

pop_1

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

strikealot

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

LaneHammer20

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

Nicanor

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

mrbowlingnut

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

302efi

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

J_Mac

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

Doug Sterner

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

Slopsurprise

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

nowski1381

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

Nicanor

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

LaneHammer20

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

triggerman

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1

mrbowlingnut

Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1