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Nicanor

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Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« on: March 17, 2008, 11:42:57 AM »
Lane 1 filled the balance hole and drilled a new balance hole in the strangest place.  Strange to me at least.  The balance hole was at the 5 O'clock position to the thumb almost opposite of the thumb 180 around the ball.  If you drilled straight through the thumb to the other side of the ball, the balance hole would be about 1 inch right of that hole.

I threw the ball and my bowtie was about 1 1/2 inches from the balance hole and the flare rings almost cleared the hole and most times did, barely.  But thats ok.The first few shots had the ball going staright, almost dead straight.  Then I threw the Cell and the Attitude Shift and they were covering the back end very well.  Pin is up on the Cell and Attitude Shift and below the ring finger on the Buzzbomb.  All surfaces ar about the same.

I noticed that i was trying to help the Buzzbomb hook and coming around the ball a little too far.  So I worked a little bit and got a deeper knee bend stayed under the ball and threw through the ball with fingers and the ball came to life.  Every time I came around the ball it skidded out and did almost nothing.  Stay behind the ball with a little side roll and fingers and the ball was vrey strong.  Never as strong as the Cell or Attitude Shift, but I believe its because of the difference in drilling.

I eventually tried a six step approach for the last 15 minutes with some friends that was video taping it on their camera and showed me the footage, and the Buzzbomb was reacting very strong on every shot.  I wish they knew how to send me the video, but they don't and I'm not smart enough either.  But even in the six step if I didn't get the knee bend and topped the ball the reaction was very limited.

So I'm not saying the ball itself is a dud with this configeration, but very difficult to use.  I know if I work on being more consistant with my release, this ball will work very well for me.

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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2008, 12:23:36 PM »
I think there is dud batch and as usual in bowling business nobody admits to it, what company besides Storm has ever admitted to problem with cracking or any other issues??? Nodda a dang one of them, we all know there is bad batches we are not dumb if you admit defects then everyone wants a free ball. Lane 1 just prefers to blame on it's own customers the pro shop's, yeah that rights 3/4 of an ounce of bottom weight that makes the ball poop out hahahahaa what a crock of sh1t you are all being fed.

It was the location of the new weight hole, it took out weight block material and made the rg lower of course if will react a little different. If the diamond shape is best weight block design ever made how come Richie keeps redesigning it with flip blocks and nuggets inside of these???  Come on it's all hype BS get a clue about the marketing you are being spoon fed.



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I personally think this problem comes down to who drills your equipment.
I've seen BuzzBombs, including mine, hook an absolutely ton in oil and on the backend.. its quite an amazing ball reaction.

You need to be able to suit people with good layouts for equipment... and I think everyone is drilling them either too strong, or way too weak.

I've drilled about 8 BuzzBombs and I've heard of one that doesn't roll well, but the guy isn't very consistant and just kinda heaves down 10.. so I can understand that. All the other roll pretty well.. handle oil, have backend, and don't roll out, even on light oil conditions.
The shop is located in an older wood lane house with a medium oil pattern at best... and the ball still works for everyone there.

Match-up is so key with strong coverstocks like these, and without it, it's a long time of bad ball reaction.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2008, 12:32:18 PM »
Though all this may or may not be true, I don't know.  But I do know that some of the Saws that I have drilled up for myself are great.  I can't say they are the end all be all of bowling balls, but I like the roll and reaction I get.  I have used other companies too as I am not on staff.  But, I think the Lane#1 balls are just as good if not better than some for me.  This is just my opinion.

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I think there is dud batch and as usual in bowling business nobody admits to it, what company besides Storm has ever admitted to problem with cracking or any other issues??? Nodda a dang one of them, we all know there is bad batches we are not dumb if you admit defects then everyone wants a free ball. Lane 1 just prefers to blame on it's own customers the pro shop's, yeah that rights 3/4 of an ounce of bottom weight that makes the ball poop out hahahahaa what a crock of sh1t you are all being fed.

It was the location of the new weight hole, it took out weight block material and made the rg lower of course if will react a little different. If the diamond shape is best weight block design ever made how come Richie keeps redesigning it with flip blocks and nuggets inside of these???  Come on it's all hype BS get a clue about the marketing you are being spoon fed.



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I personally think this problem comes down to who drills your equipment.
I've seen BuzzBombs, including mine, hook an absolutely ton in oil and on the backend.. its quite an amazing ball reaction.

You need to be able to suit people with good layouts for equipment... and I think everyone is drilling them either too strong, or way too weak.

I've drilled about 8 BuzzBombs and I've heard of one that doesn't roll well, but the guy isn't very consistant and just kinda heaves down 10.. so I can understand that. All the other roll pretty well.. handle oil, have backend, and don't roll out, even on light oil conditions.
The shop is located in an older wood lane house with a medium oil pattern at best... and the ball still works for everyone there.

Match-up is so key with strong coverstocks like these, and without it, it's a long time of bad ball reaction.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2008, 12:43:38 PM »
I think there is dud batch and as usual in bowling business nobody admits to it, what company besides Storm has ever admitted to problem with cracking or any other issues??? Nodda a dang one of them, we all know there is bad batches we are not dumb if you admit defects then everyone wants a free ball. Lane 1 just prefers to blame on it's own customers the pro shop's, yeah that rights 3/4 of an ounce of bottom weight that makes the ball poop out hahahahaa what a crock of sh1t you are all being fed.  
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See thats what i am trying to say. Something went wrong in the makeup of the coverstock and the balls aren't reacting the way they should. Like mrbowlingnut said noone is going to take the blame. There are good pours out there, and there are bad pours out there. I for one got a good poor, or atleast my used one I got lucky, don'ty know about the other NIB yet.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2008, 01:27:01 PM »
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I think there is dud batch and as usual in bowling business nobody admits to it, what company besides Storm has ever admitted to problem with cracking or any other issues??? Nodda a dang one of them, we all know there is bad batches we are not dumb if you admit defects then everyone wants a free ball. Lane 1 just prefers to blame on it's own customers the pro shop's, yeah that rights 3/4 of an ounce of bottom weight that makes the ball poop out hahahahaa what a crock of sh1t you are all being fed.  
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See thats what i am trying to say. Something went wrong in the makeup of the coverstock and the balls aren't reacting the way they should. Like mrbowlingnut said noone is going to take the blame. There are good pours out there, and there are bad pours out there. I for one got a good poor, or atleast my used one I got lucky, don'ty know about the other NIB yet.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2008, 01:56:59 PM »
I have drilled roughly 100 Buzzbombs already between my shop and the USBC Open booth. I have had 1 person not happy with the ball. That was because they were a full roller... They had no ball to look at and no way to see them bowl. They also didn't give me information with any of the questions I asked them..

Well I ask... Is this reason to call it a bad ball???

Lack of information led to this bad drilling layout....

I know that there are a ton of shops out there that just throw the pin above the ring finger with a CG kick and a hole...  They never watch their customers bowl or find the PAP. These shops have access to the info and refuse to get it. This will lead to tons of bad reactions...

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Why is it that Lane#1 is the only company to get bashed like this?? I've had balls from other companies(No need to mention names) lose reaction in less than a month. I've had balls crack while just sitting in a customers bag. I've had mismarked CG's and also mismarked Pins...If I had them....I know others had them too.  Why not bash those companies???  

Just curious......
Remeber the Classic Zone Red Pin... Do you think that was made on purpose???

Don't think so...
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2008, 02:04:24 PM »
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2008, 02:10:55 PM »
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Why is it that Lane#1 is the only company to get bashed like this??



Because the hype that surrounds the gear and the prices.

Any ball that claims to raise your avg by 20% or hook twice as much and double your scores is going to be put under fire when they don't live up to expectations.

Selling balls with high hopes and promises, your going to have people just waiting and looking for flaws.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2008, 03:46:31 PM »
It seems odd to me that if there was a bad batch of balls out there, there would be a couple of hundred complaints all around the country. What I see here is that there are roughly 7-10 bowlers who haven't like the reaction for whatever reason. Is it the wrong drilling/layout for the bowler or is it a bad batch..? =:^D

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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2008, 03:48:07 PM »
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Any ball that claims to raise your avg by 20% or hook twice as much and double your scores is going to be put under fire when they don't live up to expectations.

 


302efi....

Wow!!!! What exagerated statements. It's people like yourself trolling and stiring the pot by making statements like this as one of the big problems with this site.

Now to back up what you said and for all to see,.....

Show us where Lane 1 said their balls will raise your average 20%

Show us where Lane 1 said their balls will hook twice as much

Show us where Lane 1 said where Lane 1 said their balls will double their scores.


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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2008, 03:53:59 PM »
Way to go losing a big account please keep up that attitude at lane 1 corporate, yeah it's your drillers fault that suck correct??? You are and have openly called your drillers/customers idiots time after time, and then hide behind a fake id here on BR.

Do you not think that your drillers and BR members not know that this Lane 1 corporate making all of the t-god posts???

Richie/Chuck/Barry just admit that you guy's have a few bad balls and stop blaming all of your customer's the pro shops for your dilemia.


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It seems odd to me that if there was a bad batch of balls out there, there would be a couple of hundred complaints all around the country. What I see here is that there are roughly 7-10 bowlers who haven't like the reaction for whatever reason. Is it the wrong drilling/layout for the bowler or is it a bad batch..? =:^D

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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2008, 03:58:13 PM »
Brick  I'm not trolling sh!t, its all in the Lane #1 ad of the Buzz BOMB !

Did you even read the ad ?...I guess you didnt

http://lane1bowling.com/balls/buzzbomb.html

"creating double the hook on the backend"

"watch your High Scores double with the BuzzBOMB"


And the raise your avg 20% is from this Lane #1 TV commerical:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HStv2aILsE


I backed up everything I said.......OWNED


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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2008, 03:59:50 PM »
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just admit that you guy's have a few bad balls and stop blaming all of your customer's the pro shops for your dilemia.
 


What proof do you have that Nicanor's issues are the result of a 'few bad balls'? It would seem if there was truly a bad batch out there, you'd hear from more that just a few unhappy customers.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2008, 04:01:52 PM »
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just admit that you guy's have a few bad balls and stop blaming all of your customer's the pro shops for your dilemia.
 


What proof do you have that Nicanor's issues are the result of a 'few bad balls'? It would seem if there was truly a bad batch out there, you'd hear from more that just a few unhappy customers.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2008, 04:17:11 PM »
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I backed up everything I said.......OWNED



D*mn!!!!!  #*&%#@*# ........

302efi....you are right...I have been owned with what I said....

Sorry for my troll comment. To my surprise, you were right in what you said. I had never previously seen any of the things you mentioned and just assumed it was another attempt by someone to degrade Lane 1 again. To sum it up, I just get tired of all of the crap that has been going on lately by both sides and keep telling myself that I am going to quit this site but I haven't done so.....yet.....Again sorry.
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Re: Received the Buzzbomb back from Lane 1
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2008, 04:22:08 PM »
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I backed up everything I said.......OWNED



D*mn!!!!!  #*&%#@*# ........

302efi....you are right...I have been owned with what I said....

Sorry for my troll comment. To my surprise, you were right in what you said. I had never previously seen any of the things you mentioned and just assumed it was another attempt by someone to degrade Lane 1 again. To sum it up, I just get tired of all of the crap that has been going on lately by both sides and keep telling myself that I am going to quit this site but I haven't done so.....yet.....Again sorry.
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No problem...at first glance it prob looked like what I was saying was crazy...but thats what the ad says....So now I kinda understand why people buy balls and get upset when they don't see the claims in their score or game, weather its the ball or their style.

...Apology aceppted...just make me some extra strong hurricane proof bricks/block for my new house down here in Florida !
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