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302efi

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Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« on: June 12, 2006, 01:59:36 AM »
I picked up a used BCB a while back and I've been getting a real weird tracking when I throw it. For some reason the ball is tracking right threw the cenetr of grip, exactly like a full roller !

The ball is drilled up and righ of ring, cg stacked. My stats are: 425rpm, cranker with PAP of 5 1/4 over and 1 up.

The ball has a flare reducing hole inside my PAP as well. Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked.

I have no problems tossing the ball, its not catching ect...

Any ideas?
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2006, 10:11:58 AM »
I have ahad some wierd reactions with the bomb cores. My very first cherry bomb rolled great until i changed the surface and then i could not keep it from tracking over the fingers or weight hole. So i bought another one (used) same result. Tried plugging and redrilling still tracking over the fingers and weight hole. Also tried the Blcak cherry, carbide bomb (green & Purple) and same results. They flare too much for crankers i guess. I had a dirty bomb that didnt do that but all others do.

I really dont know why other then too much flare, mine flared about 7-8 inches.

Edited on 6/12/2006 10:09 AM
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302efi

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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2006, 10:51:07 AM »
Thanks for the reply getuaload

I also have a Dirty Bomb & a HDB and they both roll good for me. I did have 2 Cherry Bomb Pearl and they both did something similar to this if I can remember. Oh well I guess thats one of down falls about being about to turn the ball

One thing that I don't under stand is how can Rudy throw the SCB in the videos and get a good roll on it ? I would think he would have this problem too ?
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2006, 11:19:49 AM »
good question, Maybe you can try lane#1 site and see if you find the drill pattern on his ball. Or maybe you can ask Mr Buzzsaw.

I sent them a email before about this and they couldnt come up with a answer for me.
I was also the one who named the Tsunami and didnt get credit for it. But i guess that is the way they roll..

You may also try to contact Mike Savio, I think i spelled it right.
He goes by BuzzsawMike on here.
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2006, 06:20:37 PM »
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked


that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 08:52:34 PM »
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked


that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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Your ball driller really needs to know your axis and tilt when drilling high flaring cores so not to flare over fingers and thumb or weight holes
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2006, 09:00:05 PM »
is there a tool for that?

probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.
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302efi

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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2006, 09:01:01 PM »
quote:
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked


that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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GTX, I never said that..I said "sometimes" in my origianl post...You just edited it out in the qoute
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 09:21:38 PM »
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is there a tool for that?

probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.


It's usually found by measuring initial track diameter I believe... You'd use a quarter scale to do it.

As for the unusual flare.... My one comment is, why drill a ball stacked if you are a cranker???  You don't need any help getting a ball to flare...  Especially one with as much differential as a BCB.
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2006, 09:26:09 PM »
I had no luck with my Dirty Bomb and Super Carbide Bomb when drilled stacked. I have since plugged the SCB and redilled pin under ring and CG out 45 degrees. Works like a dream. I have not redone the Dirty Bomb yet.

My Black Cherry Bomb is drilled Label Leverage (1:30) and I love it. That sucker flares like mad! This was one of my favorite THS balls towards the end of the winter season.
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2006, 09:29:51 PM »
I'd say my BCB is pretty close to stacked as well, but the pin is under my ring finger and there is a big hole in the positive thumb quadrant.

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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2006, 09:31:11 PM »
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is there a tool for that?

probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.


spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2006, 09:40:16 PM »
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spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare


i thought the determinator was just for mass bias purposes.
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J_Mac

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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2006, 09:41:46 PM »
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spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare


i thought the determinator was just for mass bias purposes.


As far as I know that is all it is for... but with holes in it, a BCB it might become a little asymmetric.
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Re: Weird tracking on a Black Cherry Bomb
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 09:48:03 PM »
drilling a max flare layout with a huge flare ball is just asking for trouble.

ill never understand it.
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