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Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« on: December 23, 2007, 02:59:45 AM »
Need a ball for heavier and longer patterns and thought about the Anger. But for about $30 more I have decided to give LaneMasters a try. I understand the BP may not be a "true" heavy oil ball but I plan to rough it up to 800 grit if it goes too long.

Ball speed = 17 mph. Lower rev. rate est. 180 to 200 rpm.

My main concerns: I don't have a lot of hand so the BP with a higher RG diff.( 0.055) should help me get a better entry angle?

Also I read that the coverstock on the Terminator "shows very little sign of wear". How does the coverstock hold up on the Black Pearl?

Thanks for your advice!
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 09:15:54 AM »
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LANEMASTERS=POOP
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Lane Masters isn't poop,  and I don't think the former and current head coaches of team USA would be involved if they were.  And I also believe that L/LM was the choice of equipment that won the AMFQuibica World Cup this past year (Bill Hoffman was using a Masterpiece)..

Just because a company doesn't want to shell out $100,000 to have their stuff registered on the PBA tour and then pay someone to be on staff and use it on TV doesn't mean it isn't good.  It's a joke to get on here and bash a company/equipement that you've probably never even used.

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2008, 11:12:21 AM »
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LANEMASTERS=POOP
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2008, 11:58:33 AM »
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2008, 08:11:39 PM »
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Interesting you should say that, as I had a BP and a WCP (still have the WCP) and they were identical in every aspect of reaction and roll for me, especially the backend!


Six, I am complete opposite of what you said here. I had the WCP and BP (still have the BP) and there was the difference between day and night for me. I too bowled with them at Boulevard and also at Heritage and the WCP had very little backend and no pop for me in both houses. I tried sanding it, polishing it and nothing worked. The ball simply didn't match up for me on any lane condition. Anne Marie said she didn't care too much for it either.

Out of 4 L/LM balls, the WCP, WCR, and Buzz simply don't seem to match up for me at all. The BP doesn't do too bad on SOME conditions and although I have bowled some high games with it a few times, it is not an every day type ball nor a "first ball out of bag" type of ball for me as some balls such as the Brunswick Absolute Inferno, Brunswick Total Inferno, Track Havoc, Track Heat, Storm Triple X, Storm Depth Charge, Lane 1 Enriched Uranium and Lane 1 Solid Cobalt Bomb are.

I don't have much tilt nor a lot of hand in my release and for whatever reason the balls mentioned above perform well for me most of the time when I have/had them, but unless I can tilt the ball and give it a little extra fingers which isn't my style, in my release, the L/LM balls just don't move well nor have a bit of pop on the backend.

Maybe the layouts are wrong for me, I don't know. I just wish they would work as well for me as other brands of balls do as I think L/LM balls are top quality-long lasting balls and are probably close to if not at the top of the list when it comes to quality.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2008, 06:04:30 PM »
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Need a ball for heavier and longer patterns and thought about the Anger. But for about $30 more I have decided to give LaneMasters a try. I understand the BP may not be a "true" heavy oil ball but I plan to rough it up to 800 grit if it goes too long.

Ball speed = 17 mph. Lower rev. rate est. 180 to 200 rpm.

My main concerns: I don't have a lot of hand so the BP with a higher RG diff.( 0.055) should help me get a better entry angle?

Also I read that the coverstock on the Terminator "shows very little sign of wear". How does the coverstock hold up on the Black Pearl?

Thanks for your advice!

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I haven't thrown a Black Pearl "yet", but I probably will!  LOL!

From what I have seen from throwing them and drilling them over the last couple years, Lane Master balls are just tougher.  They repel oil instead of absorbing it.  That Diamond Particle and Carbon Particle is some tough s&*t.  Resurfacing or just running LM balls on the spinner can be an ordeal.  But I think this is what makes them worth the little extra money.  If you take your time, buy the right one or ones, you won't have to buy as many over the long haul.

Remember, the Anger is made by Ebonite, and they like that absorb it as fast as possible idea.  Not saying that is bad, just doesn't last as long and/or requires more maintenance.

Hope this helps ya...



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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2008, 11:48:49 PM »
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Remember, the Anger is made by Ebonite, and they like that absorb it as fast as possible idea.  


What is the advantage of a ball absorbing oil. We all spend a lot of time soaking them in hot water or rejevenating them or other means to get the oil out of balls, so why in the world do they want a ball to soak oil?
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2008, 03:09:07 AM »
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Remember, the Anger is made by Ebonite, and they like that absorb it as fast as possible idea.  


What is the advantage of a ball absorbing oil. We all spend a lot of time soaking them in hot water or rejevenating them or other means to get the oil out of balls, so why in the world do they want a ball to soak oil?
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To further what pooldaddy said:  Ebonite wants the oil to soak into the ball so fast that it will be off the surface of the ball as it is rolling down the lane.  They want the surface to be clean, and the ball will grip better.  The rub comes when the ball is soaked with oil.  You gotta get it out.  When they came out with the One it was GB 10.2 or something.  The higher that number the faster the oil soaks into the ball and off the surface of the ball.  Each One after the original One had a higher number GB....

that's the general idea anyway.

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2008, 06:46:49 AM »
from what i remember absorbing oil is the 2nd best way to get a ball to hook. with the first being the actual lanes friction.

i think the more oil it absorbs the more/bigger pores are in the coverstock which means the coverstck would be more aggressive. and as far as i can see the only other (good) way currently to get this much friction is to use particles.


so it makes sense why the biggest hooking balls also die the fastest as they absorb the most oil/have the highest friction


i think this was covered in an article done by the usbc but it could be wrong... or maybe it was someone else that did the study.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2008, 07:07:52 PM »
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from what i remember absorbing oil is the 2nd best way to get a ball to hook. with the first being the actual lanes friction.

i think the more oil it absorbs the more/bigger pores are in the coverstock which means the coverstck would be more aggressive. and as far as i can see the only other (good) way currently to get this much friction is to use particles.


so it makes sense why the biggest hooking balls also die the fastest as they absorb the most oil/have the highest friction


i think this was covered in an article done by the usbc but it could be wrong... or maybe it was someone else that did the study.


Very true!  The higher end/ more expensive equipment tends to need a lot more maintenance.

My lower end equipment seems to need a lot less maintenance and keeps the same consistant reaction for a lot more games of use!
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2008, 07:19:51 PM »
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from what i remember absorbing oil is the 2nd best way to get a ball to hook. with the first being the actual lanes friction.

i think the more oil it absorbs the more/bigger pores are in the coverstock which means the coverstck would be more aggressive. and as far as i can see the only other (good) way currently to get this much friction is to use particles.


so it makes sense why the biggest hooking balls also die the fastest as they absorb the most oil/have the highest friction


i think this was covered in an article done by the usbc but it could be wrong... or maybe it was someone else that did the study.  


How do you explain the Cell?  I have one and it does not absorb oil like most of the super absorbing covers yet still hooks and rolls as much as the next big hooking ball out there.
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