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Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« on: December 23, 2007, 02:59:45 AM »
Need a ball for heavier and longer patterns and thought about the Anger. But for about $30 more I have decided to give LaneMasters a try. I understand the BP may not be a "true" heavy oil ball but I plan to rough it up to 800 grit if it goes too long.

Ball speed = 17 mph. Lower rev. rate est. 180 to 200 rpm.

My main concerns: I don't have a lot of hand so the BP with a higher RG diff.( 0.055) should help me get a better entry angle?

Also I read that the coverstock on the Terminator "shows very little sign of wear". How does the coverstock hold up on the Black Pearl?

Thanks for your advice!

 

Brickguy221

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 12:56:14 PM »
I have approx 80 games on a Black Pearl and it shows no signs of wear. I could be wrong, but I don't think you will have to worry about much wear on any of the L/LM balls. Just like Brunswick, they have long lasting covers.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 01:23:08 PM »
you would probably be better off with a terminator. its a stronger ball, and you may need that extra ball with such a lack of hand on longer/heavier patterns.

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 01:43:50 PM »
If you thoroughlly sand the BP to 800 (or maybe 1000, or 1500 grit), it should handle medium-heavy to heavy oil easily with a "normal" drill AND depending on how much hand & ball speed you have. With your speed/rev combo, I'd says medium-heavy oil.

Sanded, the BP's higher RG differential allows it to hook; polished it will provide more backend. With in-between surfaces, it will combine the two. The surface and your rev rate/ball speed combination determine where the ball will use up most of its differential in creating flare.

The Terminator, out of the box, handles more oil than the BP; sanded, its twin particles, give it a lot of traction. It should probably (no guarantess) handle heavy oil for your rev rate.

I don't know exactly how much surface/tracion you need; so if you do modify their surfaces, I suggest you do it in small stages. That way you won't pass up the grit level you need.

I also suggest you be careful about how you read the lanes with the adjusted surfaces. Too often, I see people using way too much surface, the ball burns most of its energy in the heads or the midlane, and, then they whine that the ball doesn't hook or leaves corner pins. The difference in ball reaction between burning up in the midlane and not having enough traction to make the turn can often be confused.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2007, 11:15:27 PM »
I can say from experience, because I own one, that the Anger is not a good heavy oil ball. It was a disappointment compared to the Raw Pain. I am looking at getting a Terminator next as a heavy oil ball.

Edited on 12/24/2007 0:16 AM

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2007, 12:48:58 PM »
Thank you so much for your advice!

Another factor I am concerned about is that the Terminator may be too strong for the 3rd game or even part of the 2nd. I am hoping I might "possibly" get by with the Black Pearl all 3 games provided I slow down for the 1st game.

By the way, I read a post that says the Terminator does not like wood lanes?( think he also said that all balls tend to be inconsistent on wood lanes).

Would the Black Pearl Particle work better on wood?.......still a little time to decide........

Thanks again!

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2007, 01:17:41 AM »
the BP is all about backend.
The only ball that I can even relate the BP to in the backend was the shock trauma.  Its just a monster.  Its a ball you want when you are either playing deep inside or for going coast to coast.  Straight up its a condition ball that dominates a certain pattern, but probably won't be used night in and night out.
There are other balls out there designed for heavy and long.  Why would you want a (particle) pearl on oil?
I'd say to go with the Terminator and stick with the stuff you got for when it burns out a bit.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 09:29:02 AM »
From being a lanemaster expert ... I would say go with the terminator you might be surprised by how long you can roll the ball. Since you say your on a long pattern then in my opinion between the ball choices Terminator would be your only choice for the way you roll a ball and the pattern your looking for.

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 02:07:08 PM »
Bowler deal has the NS2 for $99 + shipping
http://www.bowlerdeal.com/product_info.php?products_id=102

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 03:15:56 PM »
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I found a NS2 for sale at bowlingball.com for $129 with free shipping.  Here's the link.  

http://www.bowlingball.com/Category/Bowling-Balls/4/190/Product.Manufacturer,Product.ProductName/10/category_4.html


too bad you weren't reading the For Sale forms here a while ago. I was/am selling an NS2 15 lb for $120 shipped (to the 48 contiguous states, of course) ... You snooze, you lose.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 07:46:23 PM »
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I found a NS2 for sale at bowlingball.com for $129 with free shipping. Here's the link.

http://www.bowlingball.com/Category/Bowling-Balls/4/190/Product.Manufacturer,Product.ProductName/10/category_4.html
 


They're only available in 16#.
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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 10:18:32 PM »
Can anyone supply any feed back on bowlerdeal/com? Good/Bad? Their site doesn't have any contact info other than e,ail. Any idea as to where they are located?

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 11:38:09 PM »
Thank you all for the great info!

Bowlerdeal indeed has a few balls at a great price incl. the Klong and the Big Kahuna for $99. Too bad the Terminator( which I am more inclined to now) is not on sale. The NS2 is prob. too strong for me. I'll def. check them out frequently.


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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 07:03:42 PM »
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Thank you all for the great info!

Bowlerdeal indeed has a few balls at a great price incl. the Klong and the Big Kahuna for $99. Too bad the Terminator( which I am more inclined to now) is not on sale. The NS2 is prob. too strong for me. I'll def. check them out frequently.




I think I might go the regular price for the Terminator.  Man is that ball good.  I have bowled at least 50 games with it practice and league, on wood, mostly oily.  NO SIGNS of wear anywhere.  No signs of oil soak at all.  I'm using it with the box surface.  More back end than the World Class Particle, still handles oil great.

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Re: Black Pearl Particle vs. Terminator vs. Anger
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 01:24:52 AM »
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quote:
Thank you all for the great info!

Bowlerdeal indeed has a few balls at a great price incl. the Klong and the Big Kahuna for $99. Too bad the Terminator( which I am more inclined to now) is not on sale. The NS2 is prob. too strong for me. I'll def. check them out frequently.




I think I might go the regular price for the Terminator.  Man is that ball good.  I have bowled at least 50 games with it practice and league, on wood, mostly oily.  NO SIGNS of wear anywhere.  No signs of oil soak at all.  I'm using it with the box surface.  More back end than the World Class Particle, still handles oil great.

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Thank you Mike!